The Bird & The Bear - Session 61

(0:00) - The boys open the show with some criticisms of Ohio, “When’s the last time something major, that like wasn’t a court case, came out of Ohio?” - (4:57) - Daryl signed up for a six week challenge at his gym, and the boys discuss what it takes to build routines and how easily we can fall out of them - (11:36) - Sammy is heading to Lost Lands music festival and is feeling nervous about the trip, but Daryl gives him some sage advice - (16:48) - Daryl talks about a Jungle concert he recently attended, “I don’t know how to properly articulate the dopeness of the audio in that show”

(22:42) - The boys begin their discussion on the police state, starting with mass government surveillance - (26:42) - Daryl makes a great point about that the NSA using our tax dollars to spy on us, “A big a** net around The Untied States of America is not going to replace f**king spies” - (31:21) - Sammy feels that our complacency as citizens allowed the government to push more laws giving them access to our private information, like the Patriot Act - (38:41) - Daryl pitches the idea of getting “receipts” for what government surveillance actually accomplishes, “There’s bad s**t still happening in the world, but we’re being observed up our a**holes” - (42:23) - Sammy believes America has shown extreme disloyalty to it’s citizens by having the British government spy on them - (45:49) - Daryl explains just how unchecked the power of agencies like the NSA are, and the lengths their willing to go to keep that power, “It’s gonna take big f**king government to dismantle this s**t” - (54:18) - The boys discuss how politicians, specifically Republicans, might use surveillance to enforce things like abortion bans

(1:01:54) - The boys begin the second part of their discussion on the police state with a conversation about police conduct and the jail sysytem - (1:05:09) - Sammy brings up the current situation with the “cop town” in Atlanta and how protestors are being labeled terrorists, which leads the boys into a conversation about the way law enforcement treats “anti-police” groups vs. white nationalist groups - (1:11:55) - The boys discuss the recent prison escape in Philadelphia and why police shouldn’t be allowed to photograph their arrests or busts, “Is he a burger or a buck?” - (1:18:00) - Daryl explains the need for prison reform and making the punishments for crimes benefit society, “You can’t have a cruel and unusual punishment, but that’s mainly because of the cruel part … I’m such a fan of unusual punishments” - (1:31:12) - The boys wrap the show up discussing Ice Cube’s former “anti-police” image, and why he’s having a conversation about “bootstrap” politics with Tucker Carlson