DIG THIS
25 episodes - English - Latest episode: about 1 year ago - ★★★★★ - 1 ratingWelcome to DIG THIS - An archaeology podcast for good. Kind of like Indiana Jones…if he was a woman…more ethical…gave a shit about the people whose belongings he was stealing…and was actually doing real archaeological work. Ok. Nothing like Indiana Jones.
Every Wednesday, Jenny Botica and Amanda Marshall have a laugh, cry, or howl at the moon over lessons learned during their 20+ years as archeologists, business owners, partners, and moms. Fearless and fierce conversations that focus on the state of their discipline, their company, their lives… and ask some hard questions.
How do we decolonize our practice?
How does our work support Indigenous communities in their goals for heritage sovereignty?
How do we keep our company on a sustainable path for growth while supporting the professional goals of our team?
How do we achieve all this AND sustain a balanced life?
If you’re an archaeologist, anthropologist, environmentalist, conservationist, or industry leader who sees the need for change; an Indigenous trailblazer working towards cultural and heritage sovereignty; or a woman leading a business (or aspiring to!) - then DIG THIS is your podcast.
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Episodes
You Always Get When You Give
April 26, 2023 15:39 - 50 minutes - 70 MBThank you for hanging with us throughout Dig This Season 2! In this, the season’s final episode, Archaeologist Kay Jollymore talks with Jenny about mentorship! From her start in the Cariboo area and throughout her career, Kay celebrates the generous people who made a difference in her career. She shares the value of becoming a mentor, how to be a good one, mentor, different kinds of mentors including the benefits of horizontal collegial mentorships. Looking at in-the-field and i...
The End of Toxic Masculinity in Archaeology? No.
April 21, 2023 17:36 - 29 minutes - 40.1 MBCelebrating our team this Gratitude Season, each Kleanza archaeologist chose to discuss a subject that was important to them. In Episode 21, Jenny talks with archaeologist Kevin Haugrud about women in archaeology! Kevin shares his gratitude for all the women he has worked with and for, in his career. Touching on mining, oil and other industry platforms, camp culture, toxic masculinity, healthy company values and fatherhood, he observes that his mentors, colleagues and bosses have ...
An Obligation To Speak The Truth
April 12, 2023 11:27 - 38 minutes - 53 MBGratitude Season continues with Episode 20. Today Jenny, and Kleanza archaeologist Manda Palmer gently, with compassion and vulnerability, have a very difficult but important discussion about harassment, abuse, rape, sexual assault, mental health and burnout in the practice of archaeology…and our obligation, to ourselves now, and to the next generation. Again, it feels like we're just scratching the surface, but it’s a start. And we touch on a few solutions too. The content will b...
Flip The Needle, Flip the Model
April 05, 2023 12:00 - 35 minutes - 49 MBToday Jenny hosts Kleanza archaeologist, Gary Brewer, to talk about how differently archaeology, both federally and provincially, is handled across our country. Provinces don’t all do things the same way?! Whaaaaaat?! Gary has worked across Canada and the US, with expertise in CRM, Academia and Regulation. He is imminently qualified, but also able to offer a rare combination of knowledge, experience and perspective regarding the challenges posed by such differing ways and views of...
Sometimes Meaningful is Not so Meaningful
March 29, 2023 15:01 - 36 minutes - 50.9 MBIn Episode 18, Jenny is joined by archaeologist Mirjana McIntyre, for a serious discussion about working with First Nations in their territories. About involving, listening and acknowledging what Indigenous communities want. About the importance of developing deep and respectful relationships. What meaningful consultation really means. And tangible ideas to empower First Nations, ensuring that they have sovereignty over their land, sacred sites and archaeological finds. This begin...
Knowledge is Power
March 22, 2023 11:11 - 33 minutes - 45.8 MBGratitude Season continues! Today, our archaeologist, Tannis Wilson, talks about the importance of preserving organic materials and wet site finds, as well as building this capacity in Indigenous communities. She does this through the lens of caring for and preserving 2000+ year old fishing weirs. Archaeologists are at a bit of a trust deficit when it comes to communities, because of the terrible history. Sharing knowledge to inspire future generations, and always honouring the ...
Dismantling The Ivory Tower
March 15, 2023 14:12 - 35 minutes - 48.4 MBWelcome to Episode 16! Today our archaeologist, Curt Carbonell, uses his experiences in the military and as a distiller and mixologist to explore the subject of public outreach. The perception of archaeology as - a cerebral, exclusive, academic pursuit by primarily settler gatekeepers in ivory towers - needs to change. Or we won’t be able to attract (very much needed) new students, or garner public understanding and support for our work. A reckoning with our historical, inherit...
Repatriation. It's a Thing.
March 08, 2023 13:00 - 42 minutes - 58.8 MBThis week we begin our GRATITUDE SEASON. It’s been a rough couple of years with COVID, and we wanted to celebrate our wonderful team and talk about subjects that matter to them. And do it in a way that’s not a client conversation, or getting trucks out the door, or figuring out what happened with the shovels! Archaeologist Suzy Carruthers shares her experience with and thoughtful insight on the subject of repositories and Indigenous Museology. Changes to BC legislation are being...
Being Black in Archaeology is a Lonely Place (PART 2)
March 01, 2023 20:42 - 26 minutes - 37.1 MBIn PART 2 of our conversation with archaeologist, assistant professor, blogger, podcaster, and eBook publisher, Bill White, he talks about problematic colonial cultures in archaeology and education, and his work to decolonize those associations, organizations, and institutions. Alongside his work using community-based participatory research to investigate the past of multi-racial neighbourhoods, Bill is working to build an archaeology community that is anti-racist, anti-harassment,...
Being Black in Archaeology is a Lonely Place (PART 1)
February 22, 2023 17:53 - 48 minutes - 66.2 MBWelcome to Season 2, Episode1! A passionate and articulate archaeologist, assistant professor, blogger, podcaster, and eBook publisher, Bill White joined us from University of California Berkeley. His work focuses on using community-based participatory research to investigate the past of multi-racial neighbourhoods and areas. We learn about how he's building an archaeology community that is anti-racist, anti-harassment, pro-equality, pro-opportunity - and one that is kind, inclusive...
It’s A Wrap But To Be Continued!
December 01, 2021 15:00 - 22 minutes - 21 MBAmanda & Jenny reflect on Season 1 - their favourite moments, all that they've learned, and plans for the next season! They also share their gratitude for all their listeners - for great feedback and support, and for going on this journey with them. They love how this podcast is becoming a real discussion. To that end, send in any comments, questions and suggestions and A&J will address them in Season 2, airing in mid-winter. From everyone at Dig This, we wish you all a happy, hea...
Six women. Straight talk. No holds barred.
November 24, 2021 14:47 - 1 hour - 102 MBIn our very first pan-Canadian roundtable - (where you may hear zoom’s audio limitations) - topics range from leadership, inclusivity, ableism, guilt and confidence, to harassment, abuse, boundaries, accountability, and ethics. And it feels like we just scratch the surface. To our dear listeners, this episode contains content that may be alarming. Please check the show notes for specific time code indicators and for a list resources, should you need them. Most importantly, take care...
Archaeology Is Political, And A Tool For Social Justice
November 17, 2021 13:00 - 47 minutes - 43.2 MBOwning his own CRM company, teaching, running a field school, excavating one of the world's oldest public skateboard parks, studying the archaeology of COVID, unearthing Japanese settlements in the North Shore Mountains, twitter, writing books - these are just some of the topics we touched on in a fascinating conversation with archaeologist Bob Muckle. But truly, his life's work has been to get people to appreciate and care about the Indigenous past, and to recognize the value of o...
How 2 Moms Run A Business While Cooking Dinner
November 10, 2021 22:00 - 11 minutes - 11 MBJoin us for the first of our Kitchen Talks mini-sodes. For years, Jenny and Amanda have carved out time at the end of the day, to work out weekly business challenges – all while cooking dinner. We asked them to try recording a few of them! Today, the conversation is about ‘Remote Monitoring’ - a covid 19 solution to address Indigenous community participation safely in the field, which is helping address capacity limitations as well. Again, a lot of straight talk about managing clien...
Back to the future…in reverse!
November 03, 2021 12:00 - 59 minutes - 54.3 MBPromoting disciplines that engage in early communication and obtaining consent from First Nations, is a priority for us. Archaeological geo-physicist, Peter Takacs shares his enthusiasm for ground-penetrating radar, as Amanda flexes her field producer skills, recording out in the field with Peter and Kleanza archaeologist, Travis Freeland. As a GPR Technician at GeoScan Subsurface Surveys, not only does Peter see what no one else can see, he can see back in time. Although relatively...
Mum…no…’Mom’ is the word!
October 27, 2021 15:00 - 46 minutes - 42.4 MBIn this podcast, one of the things that we've been exploring is the meaning of archaeology and why it matters. We’re all parents in this episode, so today we’re going to explore how our kids bring additional meaning to what we do. Candice Wilson, Environment Manager with Haisla Nation, joins us again, (YAY!), to reflect on this aspect of our lives. What does being a mom and having kids bring to our work in general, and to our work with heritage. To learn more about us and our work,...
How do we acknowledge all the white faces in the room?!
October 20, 2021 14:56 - 59 minutes - 54.5 MB‘How do we ‘right the balance and balance the right?’ This quote by Justice Murray Sinclair has resonated for years. Even archaeologists who understand the imbalance in our practice – and the need for Indigenous communities to be involved in more meaningful ways – find change a challenge. The existing system ends up being replicated in communities, with the all the same problems. Today we talk with archaeologist, Joanne Hammond, about creatively finding ways to do things differently...
Why did whisky make us feel like 1820’s fur trappers?!”
October 13, 2021 12:00 - 49 minutes - 67.4 MBDig our “Near-Death Story Extravaganza"! Safety is our number one priority. Archaeologists always try to prevent accidents, work as safely as possible, wear proper PPE, and review tasks at daily tailgates. But you can never predict what’s going to happen in the field…it’s always an adventure. We hope these stories provide our listeners with some new cocktail party material! To learn more about us and our work, visit kleanza.com
You just googled ‘HOW TO RUN A BUSINESS?!?
October 06, 2021 08:00 - 1 hour - 55.8 MBToday we’re digging into the subject of ‘women in business’ with Margarita DeGuzman, managing director of CIRCLE CRM Group. Obviously, we're archaeologists. Obviously, we're women. But we also own and run companies – for which we had no formal training, other than what we learned on the job. So, it's both interesting and enlightening to talk with other women about how they’ve developed their careers and businesses. There are so many different paths! To learn more about us and our w...
Can’t you just google ‘HOW TO RUN A BUSINESS?!?
October 06, 2021 08:00 - 1 hour - 55.8 MBIn Episode 5, we host a discussion about women and business, with Margarita DeGuzman, managing director of CIRCLE CRM Group. Obviously, we're archaeologists. Obviously, we're women. But we also own and run a busines. We had no training, other than what we learned on the job. So, it's great to talk with other women and learn how they’ve developed their careers and businesses. Marg and I seem to keep intersecting on panels and interviews. We’re really excited to have Marg with us!! T...
Why aren’t we all being informed by Indigenous Science?
September 29, 2021 08:00 - 1 hour - 101 MBWe’re so excited to be joined by Candice Wilson, Environmental Manager, Haisla Nation – she is our very first guest!!! We’re talking about how archaeology can support heritage sovereignty and how archaeology can be informed by indigenous science. Archaeologists have previously and sometimes still, termed Indigenous Science as only traditional knowledge, but it is also scientifically based. It's another important way of talking about science. To discover more check out this video -...
…where we ask, “Who can VS who should practice archaeology?”
September 22, 2021 12:00 - 40 minutes - 56.3 MBToday, we take a close look at who can versus who should practice archaeology and by what authority. The need for archaeology has widened but who can support that need has not. There's a lack of inclusion and opportunity in legislation, education and field experience requirements. Who can manage sites and do heritage work, needs to change. To learn more about us and our work, visit kleanza.ca
Can archaeology relinquish its golden ticket?
September 15, 2021 12:00 - 42 minutes - 58.8 MBHistorically, archaeologists have been given the golden ticket to manage, own, access and control heritage that was never ours. To change archaeology for good, it’s crucial to recognize that: caring for something that belongs to others is a privilege and honour; room must be made for direction from descendant communities; the limitations and potential of the discipline must be addressed. To learn more about us and our work, visit kleanza.ca
How the hell did we get here?
September 08, 2021 12:00 - 37 minutes - 52.1 MBHi! We’re Amanda and Jenny, archaeologists are storytellers. In our first episode, we share our origin story - how our early friendship developed into a life-long relationship, that has seen us have our own families, grow our menagerie of pets, build a business based on heart-based values, and engage in high-level goals, to change the discipline of archaeology in Canada. Welcome! To learn more about us and our work, visit kleanza.ca
Trailer
August 25, 2021 15:07 - 33 seconds - 868 KBWelcome to DIG THIS - An archaeology podcast for good. Kind of like Indiana Jones… if he was a woman… more ethical… gave a shit about the people whose belongings he was stealing… and was actually doing real archaeological work. Ok. Nothing like Indiana Jones. Join Jenny Botica and Amanda Marshall - 20-year veteran archeologists, business owners, partners, and moms - as they re-evaluate and decolonize their work, their relationships, and their values. Dig in to their fearless and f...