I was so happy when Manuel Pais agreed to be my guest on this episode of DevOps shorts. 


Manuel is a Lisbon-born, Madrid-based DevOps consultant and trainer  - but most importantly - a charismatic and inteligent human being.


Listen to the episode to learn :


- How one workshop with great trainers can change your vision


- Was Gene Kim hiding in Manuel's office?


- How IT orgs need to change in order to survive in the fully remote world we're heading to


## Short Notes:


- Continuous Delivery


- The Phoenix Project


- Team Topologies Training