After proving they were not just capable of healing, but also improving with their comeback album ‘13 Voices’, Sum 41 was more than ready to prove that they could still strike with force. Immediately beginning to craft what they consider to be their heaviest album to date.  With the catalogue that isn't exactly light, Sum 41 still manages to accomplish this feat with a crushing wall of sound driven by lyrics focussing on themes such as moving forward from the person you once were, hate & division in the world right now, and feeling a sense of connection with a parent who you've never met. ‘Order in Decline’ is a powerful and passionate battlecry for mosh pit warriors, and those living in a divided time looking for a soundtrack to their journey for unity, and those who want to make a difference. Cone McCaslin, bass player for the legendary Canadian rock band Sum 41 joins the DTP to discuss all things ‘Order in Decline’, and we also talk about the 15-year anniversary of the bands 2004 album Chuck, a few of the differences and similarities between the two albums, plus a few other topics as well!