If you want to know more about the risks and rewards of artificial intelligence, you could hardly do better than to consult with someone who’s been a senior communications advisor for Facebook, lately known as Meta, the US Department of Justice, and a President of the United States. And that’s what Spencer did for this episode.

Kevin Lewis was the post-presidency spokesman for former President Barack Obama. During the Obama administration he served at the White House and at the DOJ, where he advised Attorneys General Eric Holder and Loretta Lynch. He’s also worked for the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee and both Obama campaigns.

We talk about how AI is transforming communication, politics, business, and even our understanding of reality and identity. We get into Senator Charles Schumer’s current efforts to help Congress catch up with a rapidly-growing technology few people understand. And you’ll hear some of Kevin’s anecdotes about working with some very interesting people under very interesting circumstances.