Rutger Bregman, the Dutch historian who has been making waves at Davos, as well as irking the likes of Tucker Carlson in the states, chats to Dan about the economic ideas that he hopes will change the way we think about work. Rutger discusses universal basic income, shorter working weeks, and free borders, suggesting what the future of the world economy might look like were we to implement ideas that have been utilised in the past.


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Producer: Natt Tapley

Audio: Peter Curry


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