Episode 41 -- That's the Space I Live In

Roberto Santiago first became known in the Dad 2.0 Community when he read a Spotlight post about caring for a child born with complete bilateral cleft lip and palate. That experience, of learning how to teach your kids to find comfort in their own skin, has been especially valuable now that his two oldest children have come out as nonbinary.

We talk prejudices and pronouns, how to untangle sexual orientation from gender identity, how he and his wife encourage community and "social transitioning," and how to tell the difference between Drew Brees and J.K. Rowling.