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Cyber Security Sauna

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Cyber Security Sauna brings you expert guests with sizzling insight into the latest information security trends and topics. WithSecure's Janne Kauhanen hosts the show to make sure you know all you need to about the hotter-than-ever infosec game. Join us as we sweat out the hot topics in security.

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086| Why showing value is more important for CISOs than ever

January 03, 2024 09:02 - 38 minutes - 70.5 MB

CISOs find themselves at the forefront of safeguarding sensitive information, ensuring regulatory compliance, and protecting their organizations from constantly evolving cyber risks. Today, we are joined by Cybersecurity Strategist and Eclipz.io Inc. CISO Matthew Rosenquist and WithSecure CISO Christine Bejerasco to discuss why making senior leadership and the board clear on the value that CISOs bring to the table.  

085| NIST Cyber Security Framework V.2 – Help or Hindrance?

November 22, 2023 09:37 - 44 minutes - 80.7 MB

The NIST Cyber Security Framework has helped secure organizations for nearly a decade and while it’s proven to be an invaluable tool, it’s gotten a bit long in the tooth for a cyber security landscape that never stays static. Enter V.2 which goes a long way in identifying the increasing cyber risk in organizations and implementing more governance, oversight and senior leadership accountability.  For this episode we were joined by very special guest Cybersecurity Strategist and Eclipz.io In...

084| Let's Talk About Threats Baby

November 01, 2023 11:21 - 31 minutes - 42.7 MB

A successful cyber defense should protect an organization's critical assets from today's threats, not yesterday's. For this episode, we sat down with threat intelligence analysts Stephen Robinson and Ziggy Davies, two such people responsible for keeping tabs on threats and recent developments, to discuss updates on the threats currently affecting organizations. Check out the latest insights from the WithSecure Countercept Threat Intelligence team. Read the report on the professionializ...

083| Security by design for CISOs

October 09, 2023 08:00 - 9 minutes - 17.8 MB

The term Shifting Left has not been traditionally associated with cyber security. In this episode, WithSecure CISO Christine Bejerasco lays out the case for how shifting left can evolve beyond its origins in software development to be a powerful tool for successful security and business outcomes. Recorded on-site at #SPHERE23.

082| Hyped and Hacked - AI in Cyber Security

September 20, 2023 09:57 - 13 minutes - 25 MB

As Mikko Hyppönen said recently, we are indeed in the midst of the hottest AI summer ever, and the hype level is off the charts. Yes, AI presents amazing opportunities, but unfortunately, also threats. Nowadays, practically anyone with a passing interest in using it has a lot of power at their fingertips - no PhD is necessary. Naturally, we must view all of this through the lens of the cyber security industry. We sat down with Ian Beacraft, Founder and Chief Futurist of Signal and Cipher...

081| Mudge - the man, the myth, the mythbusting

August 28, 2023 08:55 - 12 minutes - 23.6 MB

We have the pleasure of being joined by the one and only Peiter "Mudge" Zatko, network security expert, open-source programmer, writer, and hacker, with a rapid-fire discussion on some myths in the cyber security industry that could do with busting, sprinkled with some truths that could do with trusting. This episode was recorded on-site at #SPHERE23.

080| The Power Of Putting Security Outcomes First

August 07, 2023 07:33 - 16 minutes - 29.9 MB

As security is primarily about stopping bad things from happening, victories are often silent. At the same time, failures are often very public, so how can organizations tell when their security is paying off? In this episode, we are joined by guest speaker Laura Koetzle, Vice President and Group Director at Forrester and Robin Oldham, CEO of consulting firm Cydea, to discuss assessing the value of a result that produces nothing. Recorded on-site at #SPHERE23.

079|(Mind the) Detection and Response Gap

July 17, 2023 10:53 - 31 minutes - 57.3 MB

The time that an attacker spends on a network before attempting to achieve their objective is decreasing rapidly, making many organizations’ typical detection and response solutions ineffective. Speed is the key, but unfortunately the gap between detection and response is growing. In this episode, we are joined by WithSecure’s Threat Hunter Jojo O'Gorman and Principle Incident Response Consultant Mehmet Surmeli to discuss what we can do to solve these challenges. Read more >> https://www....

078| John Grant on the relationship between sustainability and cyber security

June 26, 2023 08:21 - 13 minutes - 18.5 MB

The development of new sustainable technologies undoubtedly benefits society, but it also opens the door to new cyber security challenges. For this episode, we were on-site at SPHERE23 with author John Grant to discuss the challenges for organizations to be sustainable and secure.

077| Jessica Berlin and Stephen Robinson on the cyber front

June 06, 2023 13:55 - 16 minutes - 31.2 MB

Russia's invasion of Ukraine changed the entire geopolitical landscape. For this episode, we were on-site at SPHERE23 with security and foreign policy analyst Jessica Berlin, and threat intelligence analyst Stephen Robinson, to discuss the use of cyber attacks and disinformation as policy instruments in the wake of the invasion. 

076| What we get wrong (and right) about APTs

May 08, 2023 08:17 - 40 minutes - 56.2 MB

Advanced persistent threats, or APTs, are generally seen as a sort of apex predator in the cyber threat landscape. And while they’re certainly noteworthy, their reputation can distort what makes them unique, and what they may have in common with other adversaries. In this episode, we’re joined by Senior Threat Intelligence Analyst Stephen Robinson, and Security Consultant Richard Suls, to shed some light on APTs and how we can protect ourselves against them. Read more: https://labs.withsec...

075| Winning with outcome-based security

April 04, 2023 10:54 - 41 minutes - 56.9 MB

Security protects organizations from cyber attacks. However, studies show that limiting your understanding of security to this basic premise can hinder protection efforts or even other business goals. Instead of spending more and more on security to simply keep things running, maybe it’s time for a different approach. In this episode, we are joined by WithSecure Chief Information Security Officer Christine Bejerasco, and guest speaker Laura Koetzle, Vice President and Group Director at Forre...

074| Do you even patch bro?

March 07, 2023 10:54 - 38 minutes - 52.3 MB

Vulnerabilities and security gaps are increasingly being identified in software and applications daily. Attackers are often quick to act when any vulnerabilities are made known - even within minutes. You may have heard of the term patching in cyber security, but what is it exactly, and how does it figure into an organization's security posture? WithSecure security consultants Katie Inns and Antti Laatikainen join us to discuss all things patching.

073| 2023 - Looking Forward

February 01, 2023 09:18 - 22 minutes - 41.8 MB

In our last episode, we were joined by cyber security advisor Paul Brucciani and WithSecure Intelligence Researcher Andy Patel to discuss some notable 2022 infosec developments. Now that 2022 is in the rear-view mirror, all eyes are turning to the year ahead. What should we expect? Is there some disaster on the horizon for which we need to prepare? Conversely, are there any positive devlopments that we can look forward to? We're once again joined by Paul and Andy to discuss some of the tre...

072| 2022 Wrap-Up

January 01, 2023 11:00 - 22 minutes - 40.9 MB

As the year draws to a close, it’s time for us to review and reflect on notable infosec events and trends from 2022, and also what might happen in 2023. In this episode we’re joined by cyber security advisor Paul Brucciani and WithSecure Intelligence Researcher Andy Patel to hear their thoughts on the impact of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine on cyber security, what they think about the changes at Twitter, and other significant developments from the last 12 months. 

071| Deepfakin it: AI content in cyber attacks

December 05, 2022 13:14 - 22 minutes - 41.5 MB

Until recently, AI-generated synthetic content has been more commonly used for gaming and art creation, where the tech is still relatively new, and pixel perfection is unnecessary. However, with the tech rapidly advancing in complexity and speed, it's probably only a matter of time before it's genuinely challenging to determine if something is fake or not. Unfortunately, this increase in technology will also provide many avenues for disinformation and other assorted nefariousness. Digital ...

Cyber Security Sauna: Breaking Views – The Vastaamo case

November 09, 2022 11:14 - 31 minutes - 58.4 MB

In this Cyber Security Sauna special edition podcast, we cover new developments in the data breach of Finnish Psychotherapy provider Vastaamo in 2020. This case has recently hit the news again, with the Finnish authorities arresting a suspect in absentia. The suspect in the breach and subsequent leaking of patient data is a 25-year-old Finnish citizen. Officials believe he is at large somewhere in Europe. Neglect by Vastaamo system administrators prior to the incident has also been called ...

070| Crowdsourcing Security with Bug Bounties

November 02, 2022 07:49 - 42 minutes - 58.9 MB

Bug bounties (also known as vulnerability reward programs) crowdsource security expertise to address vulnerabilities in products or services before attackers exploit them. Many companies have adopted reward programs and sometimes offer hefty rewards for finding vulnerabilities. It's a great way for white hat hackers to make some money and showcase their talents for a possible job, and for companies to improve their security. In this episode, we’re joined by Intigriti’s Head of Hackers, Int...

069| Cyber conflicts, Corporations and Collateral damage

October 03, 2022 10:30 - 31 minutes - 43.9 MB

Geo-political conflicts are increasingly being played out in cyberspace, and organizations, whether they are aware or not, are often caught in the crossfire. Janne Taalas and Johannes Laaksonen from CMI - Martti Ahtisaari Peace Foundation and WithSecure™ Chief Technology Officer Christine Bejerasco joined us to discuss how we can resolve these conflicts and try to make cyberspace a safer place for everyone. CMI – Martti Ahtisaari Peace Foundation    

SPHERE SESSION | Johanna Småros on winning the algorithmic retail

September 26, 2022 08:07 - 9 minutes - 13.1 MB

Co-founder & CMO at RELEX Solutions, Johanna Småros, joined us in our cyber sauna recording booth at SPHERE22, the world's first co-security unconference, for a discussion on supply chain management, both in retail and in a broader aspect.

SPHERE SESSION | Matthew Rosenquist on why value is the cybersecurity blindspot

September 13, 2022 06:44 - 13 minutes - 17.9 MB

CISO and cybersecurity Strategist, Matthew Rosenquist, joined us in our cyber sauna recording booth at SPHERE22, the world's first co-security unconference, for a discussion on why we should aim to maximise value in cybersecurity.

068|The other TTPs: Tools, technologies, and people

September 07, 2022 07:20 - 25 minutes - 35.3 MB

In this episode, we’re joined by Frank Fransen, Senior Scientist in Cyber Security at TNO, and Technical Coordinator of the EU’s SOCCRATES project, which is developing a new cybersecurity-oriented decision-making platform, and John Rogers, Global Head of Incident Response for WithSecure™, to discuss the role automation can and should play in cyber defenses. SOCCRATES website https://www.soccrates.eu/ SOCCRATES final event: ‘Innovation for Next Generation SOCs’ is on 19 October 2022ools,...

SPHERE SESSION | Sari Stenfors on AI, humanness and positive futures

August 19, 2022 08:33 - 9 minutes - 12.9 MB

Serial entrepreneur, scientist and futurist, Sari Stenfors, joined us in our cyber sauna recording booth at SPHERE22, the world's first co-security unconference, for a discussion on the importance of looking to the future with a positive mindset.

SPHERE SESSION | Risto Siilasmaa on trust as the building block for businesses

August 09, 2022 08:09 - 9 minutes - 12.8 MB

Chairman and Founder of F-Secure & WithSecure, Risto Siilasmaa, joined us in our cyber sauna recording booth at SPHERE22, the world's first co-security unconference, for a discussion on why trust is the foundation upon which successful and meaningful business partnerships are formed.

SPHERE SESSION | Christine Bejerasco on the development of ransomware

July 29, 2022 08:42 - 8 minutes - 12.3 MB

WithSecure CTO, Christine Bejerasco, joined us in our cyber sauna recording booth at SPHERE22, the world's first co-security unconference, for a discussion on how she has seen the development of ransomware families throughout her career.

067| How Mikko Hypponen learned to stop worrying and love the internet

July 14, 2022 18:10 - 32 minutes - 44.4 MB

Mikko Hyppönen is one of the world's most renowned cyber security experts and has investigated cybercrime for over 25 years. From the days of naughty, nuisance, but ultimately harmless viruses to the very serious cyber threats society faces today, he's seen it all. In addition to his many accomplishments, he is also an author, and he dropped in to discuss the English-language release of his book "If It's Smart, It's Vulnerable".

SPHERE SESSION | Simone Giertz on building useless things

July 11, 2022 08:24 - 11 minutes - 16.4 MB

Swedish inventor and world-famous YouTuber, Simone Giertz joined us in our cyber sauna recording booth at SPHERE22, the world's first co-security unconference, for a discussion about  building useless things, and if they are actually useless...

SPHERE SESSION | Carole Cadwalladr on threats to democracy

June 30, 2022 10:56 - 10 minutes - 14.5 MB

TED speaker and Pulitzer-nominated journalist Carole Cadwalladr joined us in our cyber sauna recording booth at SPHERE22, the world's first co-security unconference, for a discussion about threats to democracy.

SPHERE SESSION | Philip Ingram on nation-state threats

June 13, 2022 18:24 - 13 minutes - 18.8 MB

Spymaster-turned-journalist Philip Ingram joined us in our cyber sauna recording booth at SPHERE22, the world's first co-security unconference, for a quick chat about nation-state threats. 

066| Co-security: collaboration, cooperation and cyber security

April 05, 2022 10:41 - 32 minutes - 60.1 MB

There’s many different ways to collaborate on infosec problems. There’s no shortage of associations, conferences, and other frameworks that organizations can use to find others to work with. And there’s a healthy supply of security companies to choose from. But do any of these offer concrete benefits to organizations? Will organizations somehow achieve better outcomes by working with others? Or is it more complicated than that? Today, we’re joined by UK-based Julia Ward, WithSecure’s Princip...

065| Security for non-profit organizations

February 28, 2022 13:12 - 36 minutes - 67.2 MB

Non-profit organizations play a crucial role in our well-being. In many parts of the world, they’re a major source of education, health care, social services, and more. And while they’re not in it for the money, they remain a target for cyber attacks, just like other organizations. Why is this case? What can and should be done about this? In this episode, Adrien Ogee, Chief Operating Officer for the CyberPeace Institute, a non-governmental organization that helps defend the security, dignity...

064| 2021, 2022 and beyond - Part 2

January 24, 2022 13:28 - 49 minutes - 91 MB

With 2021 now behind us, it’s time to revisit the highs and lows of the past 12 months, and look ahead to what we can expect in the months ahead. To mark the year’s end, we recorded a special two-part episode of Cyber Security Sauna. F-Secure’s Chief Research Officer Mikko Hypponen, Security Consultant Adriana Verhagen, and AI researcher Andy Patel join episode 64 to share their key takeaways from 2021, and thoughts on important issues we’ll face in 2022 and beyond. In this episode: regulati...

063| 2021, 2022 and beyond - Part 1

December 29, 2021 12:40 - 51 minutes - 94.3 MB

2021 is drawing to a close, and it’s time to look back on the events of the past year. At the same time we look ahead to the brand new year to come. Welcome to part one of a special two-part episode of Cyber Security Sauna. In this episode we’re joined by F-Secure’s Chief Research Officer Mikko Hypponen, Security Consultant Adriana Verhagen, and AI researcher Andy Patel, to hear their key takeaways from 2021, and thoughts on important issues we’ll face in 2022 and beyond. In this episode: cy...

062| Log4j Zero Day: What It Means for Your Org

December 14, 2021 16:41 - 17 minutes - 32.7 MB

The remotely exploitable Log4j zero day vulnerability disclosed just a few days ago has been called one of the most serious vulnerabilities to date. So what is it all about, and what does it mean for organizations? How is it being exploited? What are the risks, and what can you do if you're waiting for a patch? F-Secure CISO Erka Koivunen joins Janne to break down the issue, and explains why this vulnerability should be a wakeup call for security practitioners and developers. Links: Epis...

061| AppSec, According to Two Guys Named Antti

November 24, 2021 18:35 - 42 minutes - 78.8 MB

The topic of application security has never been more important. So how are companies approaching appsec? What should companies do to ensure appsec gets the attention it needs? Antti Tuomi, who works in Japan, and Antti Vaha-Sipila (known as AVS), from Finland, join the show to share their thoughts on changes in application security, shifting left, supporting developers, "level boss testing," and much more. Links: Episode 61 transcript

060| Biometrics: Privacy, Problems and Possibilities

November 02, 2021 19:55 - 37 minutes - 69.5 MB

Biometrics have gotten a lot of attention in recent years. Biometric authentication systems have the potential to take the place of passwords, streamlining the user login experience. But there are a lot of considerations before taking these systems into use. When should they be used, and how? What are the risks, and when should biometrics be approached with skepticism? Security expert Vic Harkness and red teamer Tom Van de Wiele join Janne to talk about the advantages and disadvantages of bi...

059| Keeping Your Latest Tech from Becoming the Latest Threat

October 11, 2021 19:15 - 35 minutes - 65.7 MB

Cyber crime is a constantly evolving game. As soon as new technology is introduced, attackers start figuring out how to exploit it for malicious purposes. No one understands this better than F-Secure Chief Technology Officer Christine Bejerasco. Christine joins Janne to discuss the changing world of cyber crime, and how companies can avoid having their new technologies exploited by taking a secure-by-design approach.  Links: Episode 59 transcript

058| Paths to Infosec: From ER to IR

September 20, 2021 19:38 - 28 minutes - 52.1 MB

Data breaches and other security incidents have become a frequent, severe problem for organizations. But with incident responders in short supply, there are fewer professionals available to help organizations in their hour of need. We're joined this episode by F-Secure incident response consultant Eliza Bolton, who successfully transitioned to cybersecurity from the nursing profession, and F-Secure's head of incident response, Matt Lawrence. Matt and Eliza share their views on tackling the c...

057| Dark Web: The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly

August 17, 2021 15:17 - 31 minutes - 57.8 MB

After data breaches and ransomware attacks, we often hear that customer information was leaked to the dark web. This obviously can have serious implications for both companies and individuals, but for many of us, the dark web is as mysterious as it sounds. So what is the dark web all about, and what's happening there? How does it affect companies and regular people? F-Secure's Laura Kankaala and Elias Koivula join the show to help to help demystify the topic. Links: Episode 57 transcript

056| To Ban or Not to Ban? Ransomware Payment Regulation

July 15, 2021 19:28 - 35 minutes - 65.7 MB

Ransomware payment amounts have skyrocketed over the past year. As threat actors keep getting richer, they have more resources to fuel their operations. Many people argue that the way to discourage ransomware is to implement an outright ban on ransom payments. Is this suggestion idealistic or realistic? How would such a ban affect companies, and what are the alternatives? Päivi Tynninen of the Finnish National Cybersecurity Center and Jordan LaRose of F-Secure join us to share their views. ...

055| When AI Goes Awry

June 23, 2021 18:21 - 35 minutes - 65.5 MB

AI and machine learning are shaping our online experience, from product recommendations, to customer support chatbots, to virtual assistants like Siri and Alexa. These are powerful tools for enabling business - but powerful doesn't mean perfect. F-Secure data scientist Samuel Marchal and security consultant Jason Johnson join Janne for this episode to talk about some of the security issues with machine learning and how to address them. Links: Episode 55 transcript

054| Ransomware Incident Response and the Role of Readiness

May 27, 2021 18:48 - 37 minutes - 68.2 MB

The fallout from a ransomware attack is every organization's worst nightmare. But it doesn't necessarily have to be, if you can respond to an attack effectively. As our guests explain, there are things companies can be doing in advance to ensure a proactive response to ransomware when it happens, and to reduce the impact to the company. Incident response experts Jordan LaRose and Matt Lawrence of F-Secure join the show to discuss. Links: Episode 54 transcript Whitepaper - Incident Read...

053| How to Secure Networks and Influence People

April 28, 2021 18:02 - 33 minutes - 61.7 MB

The role of a chief information security officer demands technical knowledge, but it also requires soft skills of leading and influencing - especially over the past year as cybersecurity has grown in visibility for companies. So how can CISOs get their security message across to boards, the business, employees and the security team? Joining Janne are two CISOs, Erka Koivunen of F-Secure and Chani Simms, co-founder and managing director of Meta Defence Labs and founder of SHe CISO Exec commun...

052| Challenges in Cloud Security

April 06, 2021 19:10 - 41 minutes - 76.3 MB

Cloud computing was one of the last decade's most transformative technologies. It helped organizations launch exciting new applications and services, as well as innovate the way they operate. However, moving critical parts of IT infrastructure and operations outside of organizations' perimeters has significant security implications. The cloud is definitely here to stay, so security consultants Laura Kankaala and Nick Jones join Janne to talk about the cloud security challenges organizations ...

051| Looking at Phishing Through the Intrusion Kill Chain

March 11, 2021 17:12 - 35 minutes - 49.4 MB

Phishing is the number one vector leading to data breaches. It's an easy, effective way for attackers to trick users into giving up credentials or running malicious code. While organizations cannot stop motivated attackers from trying to phish their employees, they can make it harder to succeed. F-Secure's director of consulting, Riaan Naudé, calls this building the path of most resistance. Riaan joins the show to talk about how companies can do just that by addressing the earlier stages of ...

050| Getting the Most out of Infosec Conferences

February 18, 2021 15:56 - 34 minutes - 47.5 MB

Infosec conferences give cybersecurity professionals a chance to network, hear the latest research, exchange ideas, and demo hacks and new tools. But with so many conferences, how do you decide which ones to attend? How can you get the most out of your experience? Are they worth your time and money? What's it like to be a presenter, or even an organizer? Janne speaks to Noora Hammar, head of comms for the Nordic security event Disobey and vice-chairwoman for HelSec Association; and F-Secure'...

049| Ransomware 2.0, with Mikko Hypponen

January 19, 2021 20:31 - 32 minutes - 59.4 MB

We thought locking up data and demanding a ransom to decrypt it was bad. But ransomware criminals have stooped even lower and now, threats of public data exposure on top of multimillion-dollar ransoms are routine tactics. What's next? Where's ransomware going in 2021? Joining us to give his take is F-Secure's chief research officer and CISO MAG's Cybersecurity Person of the Year 2020, Mikko Hypponen. Also in this episode: Ransomware's evolution, why it's mainly a Windows problem, the impact ...

048| The Year in Cyber: 2020

December 30, 2020 08:44 - 35 minutes - 65.7 MB

2020 has been a year no one predicted. COVID-19 made remote work the norm and shook up the attack landscape. Through it all, breaches and ransomware attacks continued to plague organizations. In this episode we're looking back at some of the trends that defined the cyber world in 2020 with F-Secure's Tom Van de Wiele and Nick Jones. Also in this episode: The supply chain attack on SolarWinds; update on the cyber skills shortage; 2020's effect on VPN, Zero Trust, and cloud; the 2020 US electi...

047| The Tangled Web of ID Theft

December 09, 2020 20:36 - 39 minutes - 72.2 MB

With the holiday season upon us, the already accelerated pace of online shopping is picking up even more. And more online transactions means more reasons to be careful about protecting your data from fraud like identity theft and account takeover. ID theft claims millions of victims per year, but how does it happen and how can you avoid being a victim in a world where everything's online? Olli Bliss of F-Secure joins the show with answers. Also in this episode: How attackers get your data, h...

046| 10 Burning Mobile Security Questions, Answered

November 12, 2020 20:32 - 34 minutes - 47.6 MB

Is iOS really more secure than Android, and why? What are the pros and cons of biometric authentication? How can you know which apps are safe to use, anyway? In this episode we dive into a range of mobile security issues. Who better to answer our questions than a couple of mobile experts? F-Secure's Ken Gannon and Ben Knutson join the show to discuss app permissions, company mobile device management, mobile hygiene tips, signs your phone's been hacked and more. Plus, is your Facebook app lis...

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