Simon Sinek identifies two different kinds of games: finite and infinite.

Finite games, such as football or chess, have known players, fixed rules, and an agreed-upon objective that often ends the game with a winner and a loser.

Infinite games, on the other hand, can be played by known and unknown players, have no exact rules and an infinite length of play. 

An unshakable optimist, Simon believes in a bright future and works toward improving our ability to build it together. For him, a big part of this relies on the adoption of what he refers to as the “infinite mindset”.

In this episode, Damon and Simon explore what an “infinite mindset organization” looks like, what makes a great leader, and we can how to go from being know-it-alls to being a learn-it-alls.

Having identified resilience as a core part of the infinite mindset, we then hear from Kate Snowise, founder of Thrive.How and Corporate Psychologist turned Executive Coach. She places resilience at the core of her coaching practice, and talks to us about the unshakeable power of knowing our “Why”.

Finally, we get to hear from Garry Ridge, CEO of the exemplary Infinite Mindset company WD-40. Gary and Damon discuss what putting culture - and humans - first looks like at WD-40, and how that has paid off over the years.

As a gift to our podcast listeners, we are offering the first chapter of Simon Sinek’s bestseller, “The Infinite Game”. This highly-praised book highlights remarkable patterns about how the greatest leaders and organizations think, act and communicate.

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To get your free download of the first chapter of “The Infinite Game” or read this episode's transcript, head to www.culturefirstpodcast.com/infinite

To learn more about Simon Sinek, go to https://simonsinek.com/.

To find out more about Kate Snowise, visit https://www.thrive.how/.

To discover more on Garry Ridge's leadership vision, head to https://thelearningmoment.net/.


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Host: Culture Amp’s Work Culture Evangelist, Damon Klotz. 

Production:  Sarah Lessire.

Assistant Production: Ayla Cleworth

Editing: Nick Jaworski at Podcast Monster. 

Design: Nicole Dominic, Amelia Chieng and Christine Tapawan. 

Culture Amp Data: Vivian Woo. 

Video: Kyle Doan. 

Original music: Sarah Lessire. 

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