We opened talking about Michigan State basketball – MSU's senior night win over Northwestern, where the Spartans stand on the NCAA tournament bubble and whether this team has a chance to make a run, like others have. Then a good conversation with The Athletic's Brendan Quinn – on his story on Steven Izzo, how it came together, his life as reluctant national writer and his perceptions of Tom Izzo and MSU and Michigan's programs (24:00).