Chris Brogan and I go way back. Chris was my first Twitter follower, he wrote my first LinkedIn recommendation, and I knew him back when he was the world’s best social media expert. Things have changed - a lot - for both of us since we met some 15 years ago, but what hasn’t changed is that we both still enjoy sharing things that help other people.

In this all too brief conversation, Chris and I talk about the history of social media, how we sometimes feel like the last kid picked in gym class, and the truth about influencers and influencer marketing - and how it can go horribly, horribly wrong. We talked about Chris’s first book - which is more relevant now than ever, and we talked about AJ Bombers and Joe Sorge. And a whole lot more.

It’s a real conversation between two friends, and you get to eavesdrop. I hope you enjoy listening to it as much I enjoyed talking to my friend, Chris Brogan.

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