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Conversations About Running

40 episodes - English - Latest episode: about 2 months ago -

A podcast all about running from the team at Running Trips.

Gavin and Callum host the podcast and are joined each episode by a guest from the running world, from elite athletes to world class coaches and sports performance experts.

An informal, informative, wide ranging discussion between people who love the sport of distance running.

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Episodes

Tom Boardman - Running Coach

March 11, 2024 17:37 - 1 hour - 60 MB

In this episode of Conversations About Running we stay 'in house' with a trio of our own Running Trips team members. Usual hosts Callum and Gavin are joined by, Tom Boardman, an experienced and highly skilled running coach who works with runners of all levels. Tom brings a wealth of experience to the team with more than 2 decades in the sport where he has excelled as both an athlete and coach. As a junior, Tom represented Great Britain at the World Cross Country Championships before attendin...

Amy-Eloise Neale

February 17, 2024 13:09 - 44 minutes - 41.5 MB

In this episode of Conversations About Running we are joined by professional On Athlete, Amy-Eloise Neale. Amy is a British middle to long distance runner with an impressive track record, including a European Indoor Championship Gold medal 🥇 and multiple British track and field championship medals. Her podium finishes are backed up by some seriously fast times too, including 14.56 over 5000m and 31.17 over 10,000m - a distance she has focused on a little more over the past few months in the ...

Jordan Donnelly - Inside On

July 04, 2023 20:45 - 55 minutes - 51.1 MB

In this episdoe of Conversations About Running we are excited to be joined by Jordan Donnelly - Athlete Product Creation Lead at Swiss sportswear brand, On. Jordan leads the Lightening Team at Zurich based On Labs, and his remit is to help On deliver the best possible shoes, apparel and performance environment for their elite athletes. Jordan talks to us about the specifics of his role including his work with On Athletics Club (OAC), talks about On's unique approach to athlete development...

Narve Nordås - How to Run a 3.29 1500m

June 23, 2023 18:09 - 56 minutes - 52.8 MB

Norwegian middle distance runner, Narve Nordås, recently became part of history at the Bislet Games, running in potentially the highest caliber 1500m ever seen, with 8 men running under 3.30. In finishing 8th in 3.29, Narve became the second fastest Norwegian 1500m runner of all time behind his former training partner Jakob Ingebrigtsen 🇳🇴 He joins us on Conversations About Running to talk us through this incredible race as well as share some insights about his training, coaching set up, ...

Victor Smångs on the Double Threshold System

April 12, 2023 14:48 - 1 hour - 55.7 MB

In Episode 33 of Conversations About Running we chat with Swedish elite distance runner, Victor Urquhart Smångs. 🇸🇪 Victor started running at the beginning of 2019, and in just 4 years of training brought his 10km time down to 29.30 and his half marathon time to 66 minutes. In the podcast we talk about the Norwegian double threshold system and how Victor's quick progression can be attributed to following this system to the letter. We talk about some of Victor's most successful races, goals fo...

Episode 32 - Ben Felton

March 26, 2023 12:30 - 55 minutes - 51 MB

Ben Felton (also known as Ben_in_Running on his social channels!) recently travelled to Iten, Kenya 🇰🇪 to join our team for a Kenya Experience camp. He returns to Conversations About Running Podcast for a second time to chat about his experience of high altitude training in the Home of Champions, how it compared to his expectations, and some of things he will now implement into his own program back home. Aside from chatting about Ben's Kenya Experience Camp we touch on the recent news of Za...

Adelle Tracey

January 21, 2023 19:14 - 56 minutes - 51.9 MB

In Episode 31 of Conversations About Running we chat with international middle distance runner, Adelle Tracey, from her high altitude training camp in Iten 🇰🇪 Her current training camp and reasons for heading to Iten feature heavily in this episode and we delve into some of the do's and don'ts of altitude training. We chat about her charity work with the British Dyslexia Foundation and Dementia UK and why these charities are close to her, and also talk about some of her hobbies that help her ...

Marathon Maverick - Jake Smith

December 23, 2022 11:13 - 58 minutes - 54.2 MB

In episode 30 of Conversations About Running Gavin & Callum talk to professional athlete for Nike and NN Running Team, Jake Smith. Jake is the 3rd fastest British Half Marathon runner of all time with a PB of 60:31 set when finishing 18th in the world championships in 2020. He has been running at an elite level for a number of years now, but shot to mainstream recognition when he won the Cheshire Elite Marathon in 2021 in 2:11:00, despite entering the race as a pacemaker with no intention of...

Emelia Gorecka

November 26, 2022 13:49 - 1 hour - 67.1 MB

In Episode 29 of Conversations About Running we chat with Emelia Gorecka, 2x European junior XC champion, European Junior 3000m champion, and World junior bronze medalist over 3000m. Her 5000m pb is 1507! Emelia talks to us today about her success in athletics from a young age, the realities of signing a pro athlete contract as a 16 year old, and allows us a unique insight into her retirement from the sport. Emelia shares with us the reasons behind her retirement and explains why closing that...

Ben Felton - YouTube & Fast Running

November 05, 2022 09:29 - 1 hour - 64.6 MB

In this Episode of Conversations About Running we are joined by professional YouTuber, content creator, and fast runner - Ben Felton, perhaps more commonly known as Ben_is_Running! We chat with Ben about his extremely quick progress from relative beginner to 67 minute half-marathon runner and discuss some of the training methods that have led to this improvement 📈 We also look ahead to Valencia Marathon where Ben will target a 2h20 clocking. What does his training look like with this target i...

Simen Halle Haugen Pt. 2

May 04, 2022 08:58 - 1 hour - 61.4 MB

Simen Halle Haugen, one of the top Norwegian distance runners, joins us for part two of our discussion on the Norwegian double threshold training system. We suggest listening to part 1 before this episode if you haven't already done so. In this episode we go into more detail about how to implement double threshold work into a training program, the type of runners it might be suitable for, and where this system came from in the first place. We also ask the all important question - does it real...

Simen Halle-Haugen on The Norwegian Training System

April 10, 2022 17:45 - 1 hour - 57.6 MB

In this episode of Conversations About Running, Gavin and Callum are joined by one of Norway's top distance runners, Simen Halle-Haugen. Simen has a personal best over 5000m of 13.37 and has represented Norway at numerous international competitions, both on the country and track. Included among his accolades are team gold at the European Cross Country Championships and individual gold at the Great Edinburgh Cross Country as an U20 athlete. Simen takes his inspiration from his desire to break ...

Episode 25 - Coach Hugo

December 02, 2021 23:28 - 1 hour - 60.3 MB

We are joined again by world renowned coach and ex-pro marathon runner, Hugo van den Broek, this time to answer some questions sent in by our listeners. How should training be adjusted for master's athletes? What is the best way to approach strength and conditioning for improved running performance? What are some of the key differences in the lifestyle of top performing athletes that allow them to reach the peak? We answer these questions and more in this episode of Conversations About Runnin...

Episode 24 - Kevin Seaward

November 07, 2021 16:21 - 57 minutes - 53.3 MB

Join us for Conversations About Running with 2x Olympian, Kevin Seaward. Kevin is a full time assistant principal and a 2h10 marathon runner who represented Ireland at both the Rio 2016 and Tokyo 2020 Olympic Games. Despite competing at a world class level and running upwards of 120 miles per week, he puts his career as a full-time educator first and foremost and describes himself as an educator first and runner second. In this episode we discuss Kevin's development from someone who ran purel...

Episode 23 - Coach Hugo van den Broek

September 06, 2021 15:14 - 1 hour - 62.8 MB

In this Episode of Conversations About Running we are joined by regular guest Coach Hugo van den Broek. Hugo is the Head Coach at Kenya Experience camps and has decades of experience both as a professional marathon runner himself, and as a coach to runners of all levels. In this episode, Coach Callum and Coach Hugo discuss some of their training principles and philosophies and share insights into how they go about designing training programs for the athletes they coach. Callum talks about the...

Episode 22 - Coach Hugo van den Broek

August 16, 2021 15:05 - 1 hour - 66.9 MB

In this Episode of Conversations About Running we are joined by regular guest, Coach Hugo van den Broek. Coach Hugo is the Head Coach at Kenya Experience camps and has guided some of the best runners in the world along their path to success during his time as a professional coach, including Gladys Chesir who in 2015 set the fastest 10k time in the world under Hugo's direction. Today we catch up with Hugo about a range of topics, including his views on the recent Olympic Games where his friend...

Episode 21: Tom Evans - Ultra Runner

July 31, 2021 20:24 - 1 hour - 65.9 MB

In this Episode of Conversations About Running we are joined by professional ultra marathon runner, Tom Evans. Tom is a former captain in the British Army and kicked off his career as an ultra-runner in 2017 when he finished 3rd in the Marathon des Sables, despite only entering as a bet! He quickly established himself as one of the best ultra runners in the world when he went on to win the Ultra-Trail du Mont-Blanc and finish 3rd in the iconic Weston States. Your hosts, Callum and Gavin, chat...

Episode 20 - Coach Hugo van den Broek

June 23, 2021 09:21 - 1 hour - 75.7 MB

In this episode of Conversations About Running your hosts Gavin and Callum are joined once again by regular guest Coach Hugo van den Broek. Together we share our thoughts on the recent disappointing news from Bowerman Track Club of Shelby Houlihan's failed drug test, before moving onto more positive topics such as the training and racing of one of Coach Hugo's former international team mates - Sifan Hassan, who has shown some seriously impressive form lately! We also talk about Callum's recen...

James Thie - Running Coach and Sub 4minute Miler

June 14, 2021 15:08 - 57 minutes - 53.5 MB

In this Episode of Conversations About Running we chat with elite running coach James Thie. James is a lecturer and the Director of Athletics at Cardiff Met University, where he coaches a team of runners including 2018 Commonwealth Games athletes Tom Marshall and Ieuan Thomas and the 3rd fastest British half marathon runner of all time, Jake Smith. In this episode we chat about some of the challenges (and some unexpected positives) that James has experienced as a coach during the pandemic, Ja...

James Thie

June 14, 2021 15:08 - 57 minutes - 53.5 MB

In this Episode of Conversations About Running we chat with elite running coach James Thie. James is a lecturer and the Director of Athletics at Cardiff Met University, where he coaches a team of runners including 2018 Commonwealth Games athletes Tom Marshall and Ieuan Thomas and the 3rd fastest British half marathon runner of all time, Jake Smith. In this episode we chat about some of the challenges (and some unexpected positives) that James has experienced as a coach during the pandemic, Ja...

Matt Bergin - Elite Runner and Physiotherapist

May 29, 2021 11:31 - 1 hour - 68.1 MB

In this Episode your hosts, Gavin and Callum are joined by Matt Bergin, elite runner and physiotherapist. Matt has represented his country on numerous occasions and has a personal best over 5km of 13.47. He also trained as a physiotherapist at the highly regarded Witty Pask & Buckingham Physiotherapy Clinic, where he continues to work and treat runners of all levels, from international athletes to club runners. We get an insight into Matt's training and how he integrates high level running wi...

Coach Hugo - Mentally Preparing to Race

May 16, 2021 11:40 - 1 hour - 72.3 MB

In this Episode of Conversations About Running we are rejoined by Head Coach of Kenya Experience camps, Hugo van den Broek. After a quick catch up and a chat about an American football player attempting the US Olympic trials 100m qualification time, we turn our attention to what is quickly becoming a very relevant topic in the domestic running world - how to mentally readjust to racing. Many runners have gone months or even years without the chance to race or put their training into practice,...

Myles Edwards - Living, Training & Working in Kenya

April 23, 2021 14:59 - 1 hour - 57.7 MB

This part two of our Conversations About Running with Myles Edwards, elite middle distance runner from Scotland who spent many months training in the Home of Champions and later set up a successful charity, the Gathimba Edwards Foundation, who's aim is to help provide children and families in Kenya with better lives and opportunities. In this episode, we talk about the journey that led to Myles setting up the Gathimba Edwards Foundation and delve into what his life, training and work was like...

Myles Edwards - on Running in Kenya

April 23, 2021 14:59 - 1 hour - 57.7 MB

This part two of our Conversations About Running with Myles Edwards, elite middle distance runner from Scotland who spent many months training in the Home of Champions and later set up a successful charity, the Gathimba Edwards Foundation, who's aim is to help provide children and families in Kenya with better lives and opportunities. In this episode, we talk about the journey that led to Myles setting up the Gathimba Edwards Foundation and delve into what his life, training and work was like...

Myles Edwards

April 15, 2021 19:11 - 51 minutes - 47.8 MB

In this Episode of Conversations About Running we introduce our very first special guest - Scottish senior 1500m champion and founder of the Gathimba Edwards Foundation, Myles Edwards. In part 1 of this 2 part podcast your usual hosts, Gavin Smith and Callum Jones chat to Myles about his training during lock down and how he has approached a year of running without races. Like many other runners across the world, Myles' mentality towards running has changed dramatically, but surprisingly, almo...

Kenyan Approach to Training

March 27, 2021 19:17 - 1 hour - 60.6 MB

In this episode of Conversations About Running we follow up on our ramblings about 'How the Kenyans Really Train'. In our last episode we spoke with coach Hugo van den Broek (who lives and coaches in Iten, Kenya) about the typical Kenyan training program. This time we take a closer look at how most Kenyan athletes execute that plan and their philosophy and attitude when it comes to training. If you want to truly understand how the Kenyans train, your best bet is to join us for a Kenya Experie...

How the Kenyans Really Train

March 06, 2021 19:19 - 1 hour - 63 MB

One of our most popular episodes of Conversations About Running so far is Episode 3: Myths of Kenyan Training, where we discussed some common misconceptions about Kenyan training methods. Of course, that begged the question, " so how do the Kenyans really train?". In this episode your usual host Gavin Smith, along with Kenya Experience coaches Hugo van den Broek and Callum Jones, discuss the typical training routines of Kenyan athletes and what runners of all levels can learn from their progr...

Don't believe the hype part 2: Running Form

February 05, 2021 19:02 - 46 minutes - 42.6 MB

In the last episode of Conversations About Running we discussed some of the things we believe are over hyped in the running community, but forgot to mention one the biggest contenders in this category: running form. Online and on social media you can find dedicated running form coaches and even entire companies dedicated solely to helping runners 'improve' their technique. But we believe this has gone too far. In this episode we talk with our coaches about why running technique should not be ...

Don't Believe the Hype

January 31, 2021 12:39 - 1 hour - 57.9 MB

Running is a sport that you can get the most out of by really nailing the basics. Yet many runners turn their attention to the 1%'s, the small details which, while they can help you to become a better runner if done correctly, pale in comparison to consistently executing the fundamentals. In this episode of Conversations About Running, the team behind the Kenya Experience running camps discuss the reasons why some of the finer details of the sport, such as running drills, and abstract recover...

Valencia Records, Professional Contracts and Super Shoes

December 10, 2020 15:05 - 1 hour - 63.7 MB

Join coaches Callum Jones and Hugo van den Broek alongside founder of the Kenya Experience running camps, Gavin Smith, for more Conversations About Running. In this episode we chat about the record breaking performances in Valencia which, of course, led to the hottest topic in running right now - shoes! We said we wouldn't dwell on it, but with new players in the game, the topic is just too irresistible. Hugo gives us an insiders view on the world of professional running; contracts, sponsorsh...

Is there a 'Best' Intensity?

November 16, 2020 15:50 - 1 hour - 56.1 MB

In this Episode of Conversations About Running the team behind the Kenya Experience running camps follow on from episode 8 and discuss how their own training fits with various theories and models. Gavin gives some insight into his most important weekly training runs and talks about why his key workout is designed to be comfortable and controlled 🤔 Hugo sheds some light on different types of threshold training and tells us why it's so important for runners of all levels to include some in thei...

The 80/20 Method: 80% Nonsense, 20% Truth?

October 20, 2020 16:23 - 1 hour - 59.2 MB

Could the 80/20 method be holding you back? In this episode of 'Conversations About Running', distance coaches Hugo van den Broek and Callum Jones, along with founder of the Kenya Experience running camps, Gavin Smith, dissect the highly popularised 80/20 training method. Many amateur runners have heard about and even practice the 80/20 method and the theory of polarised training but very few have read the research behind it. Luckily, Hugo has, which is why in this episode, like a child's win...

Running With The Norwegians

September 12, 2020 19:42 - 1 hour - 60.8 MB

Join us, the team behind the Kenya Experience running camps, for episode 7 of Conversations About Running. In this episode we look back on some exciting races that have taken place in recent weeks, including Joshua Cheptegei's incredible 5000m world record. How much help was the new LED peacemaking system when going for a world record attempt? And how on earth do you find pacers who can keep up that pace!? In the second half of the episode we turn our attention to the rise of Norwegian dis...

Racing with the Kenyans

August 14, 2020 08:53 - 1 hour - 66.6 MB

Join the team behind the Kenya Experience running camps for episode 6 of Conversations About Running. In this episode Hugo, Gavin & Callum chat about their experiences of racing in the distance running capital of the world 🇰🇪 before this podcast we each chose a photo that we would use to help describe our most memorable race, you can find our photos on our Instagram page (@the_kenya_experience) and Facebook page (The Kenya Experience). Callum recalls one of the most painful races he's ever ra...

(Vapor)Flight or Fight: Embracing or Rejecting Carbon Fibre Shoes

July 23, 2020 13:58 - 56 minutes - 52.3 MB

How is new shoe technology changing our sport? Are athletes training harder and longer as a result of better shoes? Is this a new era of racing? Can we compare today's race performances to those before the dawn of Vaporfly Technology? In this episode of 'Conversations About Running', Callum, Gavin & Hugo get stuck into conversation about the pros and cons of carbon fibre plates in shoes and discuss the changes this technology is having on our sport. Hugo talks about the difference between the...

The All-Important Questions

June 29, 2020 14:42 - 1 hour - 58.3 MB

Join us for episode 4 of the 'Conversations About Running' podcast where Gavin, Callum & Hugo put each other on the spot with some thought provoking (mainly running related) questions. Hear about Gavin's experiences of running a business while training as an athlete, Hugo's thoughts on modern tech in the running world, and why Callum feels somehow disheartened and inspired when training with elite Kenyan runners!

KE Team Interview Each Other

June 29, 2020 14:42 - 1 hour - 58.3 MB

Join us for episode 4 of the 'Conversations About Running' podcast where Gavin, Callum & Hugo put each other on the spot with some thought provoking (mainly running related) questions. Hear about Gavin's experiences of running a business while training as an athlete, Hugo's thoughts on modern tech in the running world, and why Callum feels somehow disheartened and inspired when training with elite Kenyan runners!

Myths of Kenyan Training

June 11, 2020 15:03 - 1 hour - 65.2 MB

In episode 3 of The Kenya Experience Podcast Gavin, Callum and Hugo debunk some common misconceptions that many westerners have about the way Kenyan athletes train. In particular we take a look at the well known workout 'Kenyan Hills' and why they have probably been given the wrong title. We discuss a type of recovery run which has become known as a 'Kenyan Shuffle' and why this should not be the one thing we take away from Kenyan training. And finally we talk about running form and drills; h...

Taking Control of Your Motivation

May 27, 2020 16:42 - 59 minutes - 54.7 MB

Join Gavin and Callum for a chat about the latest in athletics, including the 'Ingebrigtsen 5km road race' and what differences the latest running shoes make to performance. In their own training Callum attempted a solo 10k time trial later to find out he had just edged inside Gavin's pb of 31.06. It looks like a race might be on the cards 🤔 Gavin discusses his return from injury and the fluctuations in motivation he has experienced during 'lock down' as a result of not being able to run. The...

Running during a global pandemic

May 15, 2020 12:33 - 55 minutes - 51 MB

Show Notes:  The world is in the midst of a world-wide pandemic, and in this, the first episode of The Kenya Experience podcast we discuss what it's like to be a runner during this time of uncertainty. Gavin and Callum discuss their experiences as athletes in the UK during 'Lockdown' and Hugo joins us live from Iten, where he updates us on the situation in Kenya and how coronavirus is effecting life for him and the professional runners who are based in Iten.  For Callum it's been fairly pl...