Author, illustrator and podcaster Hillary Frank talks about how she tricked her way into radio, early writing failures, being driven by wanting to prove people wrong, the misogyny against mothers in media that she experienced while trying to tell audio stories about birth, motherhood and reproductive health, and how she finally started and grew her podcast The Longest Shortest Time. Frank talks about writing YA fiction and about her newly released nonfiction book, Weird Parenting Wins. Rachel and Hillary discuss the benefits and challenges of various storytelling formats, their shared desire to tell (or write) stories about parents that don’t make parents feel terrible, and the difficult balancing act of writing honestly and vulnerably about one’s kids or partner while protecting loved one’s privacy.

Author, illustrator and podcaster Hillary Frank talks about how she tricked her way into radio, early writing failures, being driven by wanting to prove people wrong, the misogyny against mothers in media that she experienced while trying to tell audio stories about birth, motherhood and reproductive health, and how she finally started and grew her podcast The Longest Shortest Time. Frank talks about writing YA fiction and about her newly released nonfiction book, Weird Parenting Wins. Rachel and Hillary discuss the benefits and challenges of various storytelling formats, their shared desire to tell (or write) stories about parents that don’t make parents feel terrible, and the difficult balancing act of writing honestly and vulnerably about one’s kids or partner while protecting loved one’s privacy.

EXTRA RESOURCES FOR EPISODE 65Books by Hillary Frank

Weird Parenting Wins: Bathtub Dining, Family Screams, and Other Hacks from the Parenting Trenches (TarcherPerigee, 2019)

The View from the Top (Dutton Books for Young Readers, 2010)

I Can’t Tell You (HMH Books for Young Readers, 2004)

Better Than Running at Night (HMH Books for Young Readers, 2002)

Other Books and Writers Mentioned in the Episode

Edward Gorey

Morse Hamilton

Other Relevant Links

The Special Misogyny Reserved for Mothers an Op-Ed for The New York Times by Hillary Frank

Parenting Looks Nothing Like the Experts Say an Op-Ed for The Atlantic by Hillary Frank

Ira Glass

This American Life

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