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Rachel Zucker speaks with poet, professor, translator, dancer, choreographer Julie Carr about her book Think Tank and her many other recent projects. They discuss narrative, abstraction, prose envy, pleasure, desire, movement, reading with a group, compositional process and writing habits, homophonic translation, writing-through-reading, pheromonal meter, improvisation, form, mode, and “the poetics of containment.” Carr describes how she and her husband Tim Roberts founded Counterpath Press and the evolution of the focus and identity of the press. Zucker and Carr talk about Carr's role as editor of Rachel’s book, MOTHERs. They also discuss teaching, the financial crisis, money, the daily, moving into more engagement with others, social and political activism and poetry as site of individual change, desire and arousal.

Rachel Zucker speaks with poet, professor, translator, dancer, choreographer Julie Carr about her book Think Tank and her many other recent projects. They discuss narrative, abstraction, prose envy, pleasure, desire, movement, reading with a group, compositional process and writing habits, homophonic translation, writing-through-reading, pheromonal meter, improvisation, form, mode, and “the poetics of containment.” Carr describes how she and her husband Tim Roberts founded Counterpath Press and the evolution of the focus and identity of the press. Zucker and Carr talk about Carr's role as editor of Rachel’s book, MOTHERs. They also discuss teaching, the financial crisis, money, the daily, moving into more engagement with others, social and political activism and poetry as site of individual change, desire and arousal.

EXTRA MATERIALS FOR EPISODE 24Books of Poetry by Julie Carr

Mead: An Epithalamion (University of Georgia Press, 2004)

Equivocal (Alice James Books, 2007)

Sarah—of Fragments and Lines (Coffee House Press, 2010 - Selected for the National Poetry Series)

100 Notes on Violence (Ahsahta Press, 2010 - Winner of the Sawtooth Poetry Prize)

Rag (Omnidawn, 2014)

Think Tank (Solid Objects Press, 2015)

Books of Prose by Julie Carr

Surface Tension: Ruptural Time and the Poetics of Desire in Late Victorian Poetry (Dalkey Archive, 2012)

Objects from a Borrowed Confession (Ahsahta Press, 2017)

Other writers/artists/makers/people/organizations mentioned in the episode

Family Resemblance: An Anthology and Exploration of 8 Hybrid Literary Genres (Rose Metal Press, 2015)

Luther Price (Meat)

Surface Tension lecture on PennSound

Cesar Vallejo’s Trilce (Shearsman Books, 2005)

Hannah Arendt’s The Human Condition (University of Chicago Press, 1998)

Cole Swensen’s Noon (Green Integer, 2003)

Nancy Stark Smith

John Ashbery

Louis Zukofsky

William Carlos Williams

Tim Roberts (Julie’s husband and co-founder of Counterpath)

New York Improvisation Festival

Sondra Loring

Brian Henry

Laynie Browne

Andrew Joron’s “The Emergency of Poetry”

Myung Mi Kim’s Commons (University of California Press, 2002)

Alice Notley’s Descent of Alette (Penguin, 1996)

MOTHERs (Counterpath, 2013)

Gustav Mahler

Lisa Robertson’s “Utopia,” published in R’s Boat (University of California Press, 2010)

Bernadette Mayer’s Midwinter Day (New Directions, 1999 reissue)

Sarah Vap

Julie Carr’s blog on Jacket2

Fred Moten

Adrienne Rich’s An Atlas of the Difficult World (W.W. Norton, 1991)