Sometimes in ministry leadership someone, it seems, way overreacts to something we say or do - and we do not know why! "What in the world just happened?!" we say to ourselves. But we are unaware of the systems in the church, and the buttons we might have just inadvertently pushed.

In their book, Leading Congregational Change, Herrington, Bonem, and Furr talk about how everything in a church system is interrelated and connected to everything else, so when we tap on this piece over here, that piece across the room moves too. How can we attempt to lead congregational change in a way that minimizes the potential explosions and broken things in the end? This is what Jeff talks about today.

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