Meet Julie Tamerler, a family law, business, and intellectual property attorney…and big time secondhand shopper!  She is going to talk to us about the quandaries resale platforms face when it comes to knockoffs and fakes. It's VERY complicated from both a legal and operational perspective.  We'll explore what *might* (or might not) happen to seller's stuff if The Real Real or ThredUp went bankrupt. And she’ll explain to us why we should read those terms and conditions before we agree to sell on these platforms!

Read Julie's writing in this area:
"If Resale Companies Go Bankrupt, Who Is Left Holding the Bag?" The Fashion Law.
"A Case Over Canal Street Fakes Raises Questions About the Potential Bounds of Landlord Liability," The Fashion Law.

Other reading: 

"The RealReal Sold Me A $3,600 Fake; Here’s Why Counterfeits Slip Through Its Authentication Process," Richard Kestenbaum, Forbes.
"THE REALREAL'S AUTHENTICATION PRACTICES ARE NOT WHAT THEY SEEM, ACCORDING TO NEW INVESTIGATION," Dhani Mau, Fashionista.
"HEY, QUICK QUESTION: WHY IS THE REALREAL SELLING UNMARKED TARGET DESIGNER COLLABORATIONS?" Alyssa Lapid, Meredith Lawrence, Lisa Peterson, Fashionista.
"The RealReal slashes workforce, store base in quest for profits," Daphne Howland, Retail Dive.
"At a Glance: See How These Six Corporations Control the Luxury Fashion Industry," Nika Mavrody, The Fashion Spot.
"Sasha Benz & The Curious Case Of The Fake Chanel Earrings," Christie Grimm, The Social Post.
"The RealReal BadBad: Fashion's next big scandal?" The Wreck List.

Check out Amanda's other podcast, The Department.

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