In this episode, Ian concludes his arguments from the last year as to why we need a track for the DNP-prepared clinical researcher, separable from PhD-typical training pathways, for nurse scientists at the applied or practice-based setting, by teasing apart many of the usual rebukes of this idea that come from traditionally prepared scientists and skeptics. Rebutting many of these positions, Ian points out many logical flaws and inconsistencies in the argument that we ought not prepare a small cadre of DNP clinical experts in translational and clinical research, in an effort to help people understand that there is value in this position, and that other fields are already pursuing it, successfully.