Paul Behrens is an Assistant Professor in environmental change at Leiden University. In 2020, he published the book The Best of Times, The Worst of Times: Futures from the Frontiers of Climate Science, which describes humanity’s possible futures in paired chapters of pessimism and optimism.


Paul’s book is available to buy: https://theindigopress.com/product/the-best-of-times-the-worst-of-times-bundle/


Links to other things mentioned in our discussion:


Paul and colleagues’ new paper on the climate impact of dietary change in Nature Food: https://www.nature.com/articles/s43016-021-00431-5


Should dogs and cats go vegan? A talk from Professor Andrew Knight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxjGa0MXfAc


Paul is on Twitter @DrPaulBehrens


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