#138 Reverse Vending Machines, Regulation & Demand, Demonstrating Traction, & More w/ Paweł Ciesielski (MaasLoop)

🌎 Today we are joined by Pawel Ciesielski, the Co-Founder and CEO of MaaS Loop, a Poland-based company building reverse vending machines to help collect various recyclables.

He has a background in marketing, branding, and trend projection where he specifically helped demonstrate what the world could look like in 10 or 20 years from a climate perspective.

Due to the high cost of talent and the EU's regulations around bottle deposit costs, smaller businesses require a solution to help them cost-effectively collect customer deposits.

Listen to the episode to learn more about their tech, journey, and Pawel's advice to others.

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Topics:
**3:20 Intro to Paweł & MaaS Loop
**4:20 What part of the waste supply chain they are working in 
**5:30 What reverse vending machines do
**7:15 Founding MaaS Loop
**10:00 How they differentiate from the rest of the circular economy 
**13:40 Explaining the cost savings
**18:40 How the technology works
**19:35 Creating their MVP
**23:50 Defining traction
**26:45 How they determined PMF
**30:00 Advice on raising $$$
**32:35 Overcoming the production scaling-up challenge 

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Links:
**Connect with Pawel: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pawel-ciesielski
**MaaS Loop Website: https://www.maasloop.com/
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