Ridley Scott historical epics starring Joaquin Phoenix. Sarah Watt, Jeremy Downing and William Chen discuss Napoleon (2023) and Gladiator (2000). We begin by discussing Gladiator and our initial and most recent reactions. We talk about the strength of the performances, particularly Russell Crowe, Joaquin Phoenix, Connie Nielsen, Oliver Reed and Richard Harris. We discuss the connections to Game of Thrones and how Ridley Scott established an aesthetic that HBO has been replicating for decades. Our conversation moves to Napoleon and begin by talking about Vanessa Kirby's performance as Josephine. We discuss Ridley Scott's prowess as a filmmaker and how he films scenes with multiple cameras. We talk about the historical accuracy of Napoleon and how much this affects our engagement with the film.

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