In this episode we speak to artist and award winning illustrator Zhi Zulu. We speak about her journey in becoming an illustrator, visual storyteller and her love for art. We touch on the importance of visual literacy and how Zhi, in her practice and studies, dissects modes of communication in an attempt to develop more relevant visual resources for local communities. We have a showdown on the value of practical and written components in research and why the knowledge acquired through postgraduate studies should be available for future reference. We discuss our thoughts on the position of illustration and illustrators within a traditional fine art environment and the perceptions of digital format art in the art world today. Zhi elaborates on her latest mural project at the new Jewel City Development and speaks about the challenges in translating drawing into this large scale format. Finally Zhi shares her thoughts on what it takes to make it as an illustrator.