This week I decided to take a pause from tech and talk to Robb Dunewood of the SMR Podcast about what it's like being a black man in America. This was of course inspired by the death of George Floyd at the hands of the police in Minneapolis. I wanted to have Robb on to describe to us what the daily life is like for black men across this country. I've heard some of Robb's stories before but I was floored at the relentlessness of how he and his fellow African Americans are treated as a matter of course.

It's not an easy episode to listen to but probably the most important Chit Chat I've ever recorded. I hope you'll open your minds and listen.

If you'd like to follow Robb online where he talks about tech and football and being an entrepreneur and gaming, you can find him @RobbDunewood on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram. If you'd like to converse with him directly you can email him at [email protected]