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Chit Chat Across the Pond Lite

113 episodes - English - Latest episode: 19 days ago - ★★★★★ - 1 rating

Chit Chat Across the Pond is a tech interview show that's part of the Podfeet Podcasts. This Lite version is the bi-monthly lighter, less propeller beanie episodes.

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CCATP #683 – Christophe Zajek-Denek is Kind of a Big Deal

April 29, 2021 01:12 - 59 minutes - 27.3 MB

This week's guest is Christophe Zajek-Denek. Christophe worked as a TV producer while touring in a rock band, he’s a drummer, an actor and stuntman, a surfer, a journalist, a podcaster, and public speaker. He's also 4’4” tall and has a rare form of dwarfism. Christophe hosts an amazing podcast entitled "I'm Kind of a Big Deal" in which he interviews amazing little people doing really cool things. From actors to professional surfboarders, he learns about their lives, their professions and h...

CCATP #682 – Doc Rock on Apple Spring Loaded Event

April 22, 2021 01:46 - 55 minutes - 50.7 MB

This week's guest is Doc Rock to talk about the Apple Spring Loaded Event. Doc's background in all things Apple as well as high end live video makes him the perfect person to talk about this event. He explains to me how this color calibration of our TVs using our iPhones and an Apple TV will work, we talk about whether the cool colors of the iMacs might be a distraction to photographers, how the coolest thing that got nearly zero air time was having Ethernet over a MagSafe connector, how ...

CCATP #680 – Gregg Vanderheiden on 50 Years in Accessibility

April 06, 2021 23:48 - 59 minutes - 27.3 MB

This week our guest is Gregg Vanderheiden, Professor and Director Trace R&D Center at the College of Information Studies at the University of Maryland. Listen to Gregg talk about Morphic at 19:40 on the NosillaCast You can find more about the Trace Institute at The Global Public Inclusive Infrastructure at His work on the Morphic project (coming into beta in just two weeks) at You can follow Morphic on Twitter @mymorphic or Gregg's very i...

CCATP #678 – Matt Campbell on Accessibility Overlays & Cloudflare Remote Browser Isolation

March 30, 2021 01:36 - 1 hour - 28.1 MB

Matt Campbell is a blind software developer who has specialized in making computers more accessible to blind people for over 20 years. He was the lead developer for Serotek for 15 years, where he developed several affordable and easy-to-use products, including a Windows screen reader and an online community for blind people. More recently, he was a developer on the Windows accessibility team at Microsoft, where he contributed to Narrator, the screen reader built into Windows. Now he’s the co...

CCATP #676 – Jill McKinley on Windows to Mac Conversion

March 21, 2021 01:12 - 53 minutes - 24.6 MB

This week our guest is Jill McKinley, aka Jill from the North Woods. I’ve been using a Mac since 1984, and other than a 3-year stint using Windows Vista at work, I’ve been heads down in the Mac operating system all that time. Jill has recently bought her first Mac, which as is usually the case turned into a second Mac purchase. She is still straddling both operating systems and honestly not using macOS too much yet. I thought it would be fun to have her come on and chat about what it’s bee...

CCATP #675 – Working from Home Part 2 – Allister Jenks & Lindsay Tondee

March 14, 2021 00:57 - 57 minutes - 26.1 MB

In the last Chit Chat Across the Pond Lite, Lindsay Tondee made her debut appearance where we talked about working from home. After the show published, Allister Jenks wrote to me and told me that halfway through listening he had to stop and start writing down notes for a recording he would have to make talking about his views on the same subject. I forwarded Allister's message to Lindsay and then I connected the two of them and before I knew what was happening they had decided that we wer...

CCATP #674 — Cooking Like a Programmer

March 07, 2021 02:32 - 48 minutes - 22.2 MB

Bart Busschots joins us for Chit Chat Across the Pond in an episode of what he calls "Programming Adjacent". It's not about programming, it's actually about cooking and not wasting food. But Bart, being a programmer, approaches the problem like a programmer. I guarantee you that no one else on earth approaches cooking and food inventory in the same way as Bart. It was great fun to learn how he does it and to contrast it to how in my house, two engineers have come up with a completely differ...

CCATP #673 – Lindsay Tondee on Working from Home

February 27, 2021 16:00 - 47 minutes - 43.6 MB

Lindsay Tondee, Senior Manager in Quality Assurance at a global pharmaceutical company, joins us to talk about whether it's a good or a bad thing that companies are thinking about having their workforce continue to work from home indefinitely. I originally thought this would be a great thing because we'll have fewer cars on the road, less traffic and pollution, office buildings won't be needed and people gain hours of their life back because they're not spending it commuting in their cars. ...

CCATP #671 – Allison Sheridan on American Council of the Blind Radio

February 15, 2021 00:29 - 1 hour - 29 MB

This week the tables are turned and you'll actually hear me being interviewed. I was asked to be on the Magic Mac Show, which is on the American Council of the Blind's streaming radio channel. Hosts Tyson Ernst, Katie Frederick and Jason Castonguay asked me on so they could learn about how I got interested in accessibility and what it's helped me do. During the latter part of the show, they do something terrifying - they allow live audience listeners to call in and ask questions! I've al...

CCATP #670 – Ken Ray on Apple's Record-Breaking Earnings Call

February 03, 2021 04:20 - 58 minutes - 53.6 MB

This week our guest on Chit Chat Across the Pond is Ken Ray, host of the macOS Ken Podcast, hosted at[]( You may have been wondering why Ken had never been on Chit Chat Across the Pond before, but I just wanted to make sure he was going to stick with it. Since he just hit his 15 year anniversary of doing macOS Ken, I decided it was probably safe to have him on the show. I asked Ken to come on the show to walk us through Apple's record-breaking quarterly e...

CCATP #667 – Mike Price on Keyboard Maestro

January 07, 2021 01:12 - 1 hour - 60.8 MB

This week our guest for Chit Chat Across the Pond is Mike Price, also known as @Grumpy in the podfeet slack and our live show chat room. During the live NosillaCast, I have to perform a super repetitive set of tasks to add chapter marks as I'm recording the show. If you enjoy there _being_ chapter marks, you should give partial thanks to Mike, because he figured out how to automate the process for me using Keyboard Maestro from The thing that fascinated me was that ...

CCATP #664 – Tom Merritt on Time Management

December 09, 2020 03:33 - 47 minutes - 43.9 MB

This week's guest is Tom Merritt, prolific podcaster, author, and lover of dogs. I asked Tom to come on the show to explain how on earth he does as much as he does. We walk through all of his podcasts, what he has to do to prepare for them, and how he makes the time to get all of them done. He talks about the research required for each of them and even how some require him to watch TV. On top of podcasting, he's an author, he walks his dogs, he exercises, and even spends time with his wife...

CCATP #662 – Rod Simmons on Screencasting Tips and Tricks

November 25, 2020 02:03 - 1 hour - 68.2 MB

This week Rod Simmons of the SMR Podcast joins me to talk about our tips and tricks for doing effective screen casting. We started by going through some more strategic ideas on how to get your message across with a screencast, and then we dug into some of the techniques and tools we use to edit our screencasts.

CCATP #660 – Lory Gil on M1 Macs

November 13, 2020 16:37 - 55 minutes - 50.9 MB

It wouldn’t be an Apple announcement week without Lory Gil joining us, managing editor of iMore. We start the conversation by talking about what all of the new M1 Macs have in common, which is much more than we're used to seeing. Then we talk about what System on a Chip (SoC) actually means and why it's so important to us. There is a very subtle, but possibly important difference between the 256GB and 512GB storage models of the MacBook Air, which makes it even more interesting to decide b...

CCATP #657 – Lory Gil on the iPhone 12 Announcement

October 16, 2020 23:29 - 1 hour - 60.9 MB

Lory Gil, managing editor from iMore is back to talk about the new toys announced by Apple this week. In a show where we do NOT talk about 5G we instead talk about how cool it is that Apple brought so many features to the entire product line of iPhones, and then we go deep into a couple of the differences between the models. We talk about magnetometers, nano ceramic crystals and more nerdy terms. Lory speculates on what fun things we'll get out of the MagSafe connector - like maybe we can st...

CCATP #655 – Jill (from the North Woods) McKinley on Starting a Podcast

October 02, 2020 04:18 - 42 minutes - 39 MB

This week our guest is Jill McKinley of the Start with Small Steps Podcast at Those of you who listen to the NosillaCast may already know her from her many fantastic tech reviews for the show as Jill from the North Woods. I'm a fan of the Start With Small Steps podcast thought it would be fun to have Jill to come on to talk about what it's like to start a podcast in 2020. All of my experience and knowledge about starting is 15 years old so I was curious what it's like no...

CCATP #653 – Lory Gil on New Apple Watches, iPads and Services

September 17, 2020 00:26 - 1 hour - 59.1 MB

With the new announcements of Apple Watches, iPads and services like Fitness+ and Apple One, the best person to talk to is Lory Gil, managing editor of iMore. In this episode we talk about whether the new Apple Watch Series 6 processor matters, or is it the new colors that excite us. Is Apple doing a good job bringing out lower-priced products for those with less disposable income or are they doing it wrong? Family setup allows a child or an elderly parent have an Apple Watch that makes ph...

CCATP #649 – Dr. Helma van der Linden on Creating a Book with Open Source Software

August 07, 2020 22:49 - 1 hour - 62 MB

This week our guest is Dr. Helma van der Linden from the Netherlands here to talk about how she created the Taming the Terminal book using all Open Source software. On the NosillaCast I talked a lot about the book but I should probably give an explanation for the Chit Chat audience. Bart Busschots and I created the Taming the Terminal podcast and for this series on learning the macOS (and Linux) command line, Bart wrote a spectacular set of tutorial shownotes on his website at ...

CCATP #648 – Shaun Peterson (Qwalsius) on Art with Technology as a Native American

July 28, 2020 21:07 - 56 minutes - 51.7 MB

Shaun Peterson, who’s inherited name is Qwalsius, is a member of the Puyalup Tribe in Washington. He is a professional artist working in public sculptures, printmaking and mixed media. Shaun utilizes technology to plan installations for major works and private commissions. He works in the Seattle area and draws inspiration from his Native American heritage blending technology and tradition in what he calls ‘traditional innovation’. You can follow Shaun's work online at, on...

CCATP #646 – Doug Kaye on The Levelator

July 15, 2020 01:28 - 43 minutes - 39.7 MB

Doug was one of the founding forces behind podcasting (his podcast was the second one created!) He founded The Conversations Network in 2002 with the intent of coordinating a global team of volunteer podcasters to capture and publish lectures, seminars, and other significant events that would otherwise go unrecorded. Out of The Conversations Network came the beloved podcast software tool, The Levelator. Doug has turned his attention now to photography and I highly recommend you give your...

CCATP #644 – Lory Gil on WWDC

June 30, 2020 03:30 - 1 hour - 65.8 MB

macOS 11 Big Sur: Everything you need to know | iMore New Apple accessibility features coming this fall make technology usable and more accessible to all | iMore How to send feedback to Apple about iOS, iPadOS, macOS, watchOS, and tvOS betas | iMore How to send feedback to Apple about macOS betas | iMore Recovery mode redo coming to Apple Silicon Macs | iMore Follow Lory on Twitter @appaholik Email Lory at [email protected] [email protected] Wyze Affiliate Link ...

CCATP #641 – Robb Dunewood on Being a Black Man in America

June 03, 2020 00:03 - 54 minutes - 50.2 MB

This week I decided to take a pause from tech and talk to Robb Dunewood of the SMR Podcast about what it's like being a black man in America. This was of course inspired by the death of George Floyd at the hands of the police in Minneapolis. I wanted to have Robb on to describe to us what the daily life is like for black men across this country. I've heard some of Robb's stories before but I was floored at the relentlessness of how he and his fellow African Americans are treated as a matte...

CCATP #639 — Lory Gil on All Things Apple

May 19, 2020 00:23 - 58 minutes - 53.7 MB

If you'd like to follow Lory Gil online, she's @appaholik on Twitter, @lorygil on most other social media and you can even email her at [email protected] And of course you should go read all of her great work over at [email protected]

CCATP #636 – Adam Engst on 30 Years of TidBITS and other random topics

May 01, 2020 04:27 - 1 hour - 68.9 MB

Adam Engst has been publishing TidBITS for 30 years so I asked him to come on the show to talk about that journey. While we technically had an agenda, this conversation wandered into all kinds of fun topics like why Adam still goes to the same dentist office even though the dentist left and why he doesn't know how many words per minute he types. I found a kindred spirit in Adam in his ability to keep doing something he loves for a very long time. I smiled and laughed and enjoyed the heck out...

CCATP #634 — Mikah Sargent on Favorite TextExpander Snippets

April 14, 2020 01:13 - 1 hour - 60.9 MB

This week our guest is Mikah Sargent of the Clockwise Podcast and the TWiT network. Mikah was talking on some show about how much he loves TextExpander, and I thought it might be fun to have a session where we talked about our favorite TextExpander snippets from Smile. You can find all of Mikah's work at [email protected]

CCATP #633 — Anthony Lemos Explains Mixers

April 10, 2020 01:12 - 1 hour - 57.8 MB

Anthony Lemos of Audio Aperture Media successfully explains what mixers are for and what all those darn knobs and buttons are. Even if you're not into audio recording, I think you'll enjoy learning about mixers from Anthony. He doesn't use a lot of jargon, rather he breaks things down into simple terms that are easy to understand without a background in audio. I've never been able to figure out the difference between gain and volume, and Anthony's simple explanation finally clarified it for...

CCATP #631 — Rosemary Orchard on Shortcuts

March 26, 2020 23:23 - 1 hour - 83 MB Take Control of Shortcuts book Video — Automators 24: Blog Post Editorial Calendar in AirTable with Shortcuts [email protected]

CCATP #629 - Dr. Garry on Study of Language Skills vs Numeracy In Learning to Program

March 14, 2020 14:40 - 58 minutes - 54 MB

Dr. Maryanne Garry of the University of Waikato and I break down the meaning of a research paper published in the journal Nature in which subjects were measured to see whether language aptitude had a high correlation with learning to code. The paper can be found at "Relating Natural Language Aptitude to Individual Differences in Learning Programming Languages". Figures we discuss from the open access journal: Figure 1 Figure 2 Figure 3

CCATP #628 — Bart Busschots on Creating Automator Quick Actions

March 07, 2020 23:44 - 55 minutes - 50.8 MB

This week our guest is Bart Busschots with an installment of something he's calling Programming By Stealth-adjacent. It's not part of the regular series of Programming By Stealth, and yet it's not technically very "light" in terms of the chit chatting. Since neither podcast is the right place for it, I've decided to put it in both podcast feeds to be wrong twice. Bart walks us through how to create Quick Actions with Automator (also known as Services) to do some simple but very useful tex...

CCATP #627 Robin Christopherson on Advancements in Tech for Accessibility

February 26, 2020 02:08 - 61.1 MB

This week we're joined by Robin Christopherson. Robin is the host of the Alexa skills podcast Dot to Dot and he’s co-host of the weekly Tech Talk show from the Royal National Institute of Blind People. Robin is also Head of Digital Inclusion and part of the globally-acclaimed accessibility and tech team of AbilityNet and has spoken at numerous events in recent years. Oh yeah, he’s also blind. Robin tells us about how the advancements in technology have made such a huge difference in the li...

CCATP #625 — Tom on the Internet on Teaching Himself to Program

February 11, 2020 03:33 - 58 minutes - 53.7 MB

Tom Steven, aka Tom on the Internet from []( joins me to tell the tail of how he went from knowing zero about programming to landing a full-time job as a web developer in two years of self-training. Then he talks about the things that surprised him that he learned as a developer in that first year. In listening to Tom, you'll feel like he's not extraordinary and like maybe you could do this too. That is, if you're willing to put the tim...

CCATP #623 — Lila Brissette on Accessibility from a Young Person's Perspective

January 31, 2020 01:55 - 50 minutes - 46.2 MB

While we were in Las Vegas for CES, we carved out some time to have dinner with our good friend, JF Brissette, who is also the editor of all of my videos for ScreenCastsOnline. He brought his daughter Lila to dinner and she started talking to me about her journey of discovery into accessibility on Apple devices. I asked her to come on the show to talk about her perspective on accessibility as a young person without any disabilities. She's delightful and intelligent and I really enjoyed see...

CCATP #621 — Bart Busschots's Health Tech Update

January 11, 2020 01:42 - 59 minutes - 54.5 MB

Cat Eye Volt400 Duplex BPM Core Blood Pressure Monitor Withings Sleep Mat Withings Thermo [email protected]

CCATP #620 — Eleanor Mazzarella on Moving from Musician to Programmer

December 31, 2019 16:49 - 1 hour - 64.2 MB

This week we're joined by Eleanor Mazzarella, a musician turned programmer. She gives us her background in music from finding a clarinet on a bookshelf as a child to a career as a classical performer. She then walks us through how and why she decided that programming sounded like more fun. She's a funny, delightful storyteller as she weaves in her love of the arts with her love of everything nerdy.

CCATP #618 – Adam Engst on Success of Macs at IBM

December 06, 2019 20:58 - 54 minutes - 50.1 MB

Adam Engst, veteran author of TidBITS for the last 29 years, inventor of Internet advertising and someone who dresses appropriately for the weather joins us for this episode of Chit Chat Across the Pond. Adam explains the fascinating results that IBM has reported since they first decided to give their employees the choice of whether to use a Mac or Windows. I'm afraid this discussion will cement any EVER so slight Apple bias you might have already had, because the statistically-significant...

CCATP #616 — Don McAllister on Automating ScreenCastsOnline

November 18, 2019 23:42 - 1 hour - 32 MB

This week I asked Don McAllister, owner of ScreenCastsOnline to come on the show to talk about how he automates the production of his video tutorial podcast business. We start at his humble beginnings as a new convert from Windows with a Mac mini and a monitor, up to and including a global workforce with automated workflows. He's even moved his Mac Pro into MacStadium so it's a resource for his back end production folks. I must do a disclaimer that I do screencasts for Don's show, which ...

CCATP #614 – Ken Case of Omni Group on His Computing Life Story

November 07, 2019 02:27 - 1 hour - 30.4 MB

This week's Chit Chat Across the Pond is really special. It's an interview with Ken Case, the CEO of Omnigroup. We don't actually talk much about his current work, but rather start back with how he went to college when he was only 13 years old at the University of Washington. He takes us on the fascinating journey of technology that lead him to work for Steve Jobs's NeXT computer company and how it changed his view of what computing could be. It's a wonderful story filled with super geeky d...

CCATP #560 – Ray Robertson on Impact of Apple's Development Process on Developers

October 24, 2019 19:39 - 59 minutes - 27.1 MB

This week we're joined by returning guest Ray Robertson, well-known AppleScript guru and general all around automator. Ray joins me to talk about the increased challenges developers faced working with Apple. It's no secret that iOS 13 and iPad OS 13 have been problematic on their own, but the betas and final delivery of macOS Catalina has also produced huge problems for developers. Ray says he's no expert, but he tries to get into some of the details of the modifications Apple has introdu...

CCATP #608 – Doug Ingram on Nightscape Photography

September 15, 2019 22:55 - 53 minutes - 24.6 MB

Doug Ingram joins us to talk about what he calls Nightscape Photography, which is a combination of astral photography (photographing the stars) and photographing of the surrounding landscape. His photographs of the Milky Way with the landscape are absolutely breathtaking. Doug explains his gear, the settings on his camera and the surprisingly little he does to edit his photos after the shoot. He also talks to how far he's willing to drive in a single night to capture these amazing shots. ...

CCATP #607 – Bart Busschots's Podcast Recommendations

September 08, 2019 23:36 - 1 hour - 34.8 MB

In this week's episode of Chit Chat Across the Pond Bart Busschots joins us to talk about how he arranges his podcast listening, how he categorizes them and then what kinds of shows he likes. Bart listens to around 6 hours of podcasts per _day_ so this is quite a long list. He purposely didn't include the usual suspects that he's talked about often before. That means that you are bound to learn about some shows you've never heard of and might enjoy. There are TONS of links to every show in ...

CCATP #606 — Bart Busschots on DoH and DoT

September 01, 2019 01:51 - 1 hour - 29.4 MB

In this "Lite" version of Chit Chat Across the Pond, Bart answered Scott Fairclough's request to explain DoH and DoT. It's super nerdy and really interesting. First Bart gives us a full refresher on exactly what DNS is (and I needed that refresher. Then he explains the problems with DNS from a security and privacy point of view. Then he walks us through how DoH, aka DNS over TLS and DoH, aka DNS over https (which is actually http over TLS) will start protecting us in the future (and in som...

CCATP #605 — Sandy Foster on CarPlay and Prius Prime Tech

August 17, 2019 19:37 - 45 minutes - 20.9 MB

In this week's episode, Sandy Foster, aka @MacQuilter joins me to talk about why CarPlay is so awesome and how it influenced her decision to buy the top-of-the-line Prius, called Prius Prime. We also talk about the new tech in the Prius Prime including the fact that it's not just a gas/electric hybrid, it's also a full electric vehicle for short-range driving. You can follow Sandy online at and find her in the NosillaCast Live chat room and the Podfeet Slack @Sandy. allison...

CCATP #604 - Bart Busschots on Tech of Buying a Mountain/City Bike

August 11, 2019 20:43 - 1 hour - 47.9 MB

Bart Busschots joins us to talk about the technology decisions that go into buying a bike these days. I thought I knew about bikes, but I learned a lot about what's changed just in the last five years. In the blog post, we have a video where Bart walks around his bike and points out each of the things he talked about in the recording: Bart's video showing the bike components [email protected]

CCATP #603 - Laura Kane on Effect of Women on Business Success

July 25, 2019 01:04 - 41 minutes - 19.9 MB

This week our guest is Laura Kane, CFA, CPA, Head of Investment Themes Americas for UBS.  Laura specializes in something called Sustainable Investing for UBS. As part of her research she has written several articles about investing through a gender lens. I've asked Laura to come on, not to talk about investing per se, but rather what she has discovered about the impact women have on the success of a company. Here's a link to the research we discuss in the interview:

CCATP #601 – Dr. Maryanne Garry on Why Science is Broken

July 08, 2019 21:49 - 40 minutes - 19.9 MB

Dr. Garry, self-proclaimed Crusher of Dreams, joins us again on Chit Chat Across the Pond, this time to talk about how she thinks science is broken and why. Dr. Garry is a professor of Psychology at the University of Waikato, and also professor of the NZ institute of Security & Crime Science. In this episode, she takes on the topic of how science journals choose which papers should be published, and the flaws she sees in that process that cause the extraordinary claims to be published, rath...

CCATP #599 — Dr. Devon Polaschek on Psychopaths

June 21, 2019 13:55 - 47 minutes - 21.9 MB

This week we’re joined by Dr. Devon Polaschek. Dr. Polaschek is the Joint Director of the New Zealand Institute for Security and Crime Science at the University of Waikato. I will further embarrass her by mentioning that she was recently awarded with a Queen's Birthday honour (as in Queen Elizabeth). Dr. Polaschek has has been made a Member of the New Zealand Order of Merit for services to criminal psychology. In this interview, we talk about Devon's work with imprisoned psychopaths and h...

CCATP #598 — Oleksandr Kosovan of MacPaw

June 18, 2019 03:45 - 26 minutes - 12 MB

Interview with Oleksandr Kosovan of MacPaw about SetApp, his work to enhance tech in Ukraine and how he created a Mac museum. MacPaw [email protected]

CCATP #596 — Anže Tomić on Tech in Slovenia

June 08, 2019 20:38 - 1 hour - 28.9 MB

This week on Chit Chat Across the Pond I had the great pleasure of talking to Slovenian tech podcaster, Anže Tomić. Anže also works for RTV Slovenia's Val 202 public radio, and as he says on his website, he sounds like an Eastern European Bond villain. He's also a writer for the most read Slovene tech magazine Monitor (think PC/Macworld in Slovene.) We talked all over the tech map from net neutrality, to the lack of spam calls in Slovenia, to Internet speeds, to his love of the old Nokia ha...

CCATP #594 — David Woodbridge on Samsung Galaxy S10, Watch and Buds

May 25, 2019 00:42 - 58 minutes - 26.6 MB

David Woodbridge of the Vision Store in Australia tells about how he's been testing and using the Samsung Galaxy S10, the Galaxy Watch and the Galaxy Buds side by side with his iPhones, Apple Watch and AirPods. It's a delightful discussion of the relative goodness of both platforms from an accessibility perspective. David is hilarious and we have a bit of fun wandering off topic from time to time. You can find David's many podcasts at: iSee Various Technologies from a Blind Person’s Pers...

CCATP #591 — Kaylee Dayo on Building JavaScript Games to Teach English in Japan

April 28, 2019 14:38 - 1 hour - 33.4 MB

BUZZR WhatTheFont? Transit Clear Divs/GtP —> Mousetrap NW.js Makey Makey Villas FunForce Touch Controller Whiteboard app - Doceri Zettai Geek Dayo Podcast at [email protected]


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