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Ginny Barker is one of those people you can count on to keep it real, and because of that I have loved her from the moment I met her. She was a part of the church plant I helped start in Asheville, North Carolina. We went through a lot of church trauma together, and this conversation is about all of that. Spiritual trauma, dark night of the soul, narcissism in spiritual leadership, and so much more. If this topic touches you personally, I think you can brace yourself for some lightbulb moments, and stick around to the end, because we talk about how to heal as individuals, and whether a healthy church community is even a thing. As you hear Ginny’s story, may you find healing, hope, and maybe even a few giggles.

Ginny's blog: Cheetos for breakfast
Ginny's piece on Tears of Eden

She’s also an avid reader, so there’s an extensive book list of her recommendations that you’ll hear her cite throughout, and most of which are included here:

Ecaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys

In the House of Friends by Kenneth J. Garrett

When Narcissism Comes to Church by Check DeGroat

Something's Not Right by Wade Mullen

Narcissism in the Church by David Orrison, PhD

The Subtle Power of Spiritual Abuse by David Johnson and Jeff Van Vonderen 

Broken Trust by F. Remy Diederich

A Church Called Tov by Scot McNight

Redeeming Power by Diane Langberg

Soul Repair by Jeff Van Vonderent and Dale and Juanita Ryan

Healing Spiritual Wounds by Carol Howard Merritt

James Fowler's stages of spiritual development