It's time for Part 2 of this dialogue!

Conversations about collective identity are important but what does a BIPOC existence offer us as distinct communities of color? Are there communities that like the term more than others? How does our daily reality shape whether or not we will lean into an identity beyond Blackness or Latinidad? When there is so much work that needs to be done even in those distinct identities who has the energy to take on more?

Tyler Burns, VP of Brand and Story, joins Sandra Van Opstal in a reality check on why these questions are necessary for our BIPOC identity (if one even exists). Together, they address the pain in amongst their own communities and how that impacts the ability to envision a collective win. They also invite us to the spiritual practices of protest and coalition as a way of embodiment.

Tyler Burns is a pastor, speaker, and podcaster. He currently serves as the President of the Witness: A Black Christian Collective. You may recognize his voice from the Pass the Mic Podcast.