We first chatted about Growing Gills with Addie Zierman in this episode on self-care, resourcing, and diving back into writing after some time away.


Then, we got the chance to interview Jessica Abel herself on her method for creating systems that help you be creative in this episode.


And then we realized that we had a lot to say about what Growing Gills taught each of us and how we’re incorporating those lessons into spending time on our own much-neglected creative projects.


That’s what this episode is all about.


Get your hands on a copy of Growing Gills: How to Find Creative Focus When You’re Drowning in Your Daily Life and the free workbook on Jessica’s site here and start creating!


Or check out Jessica’s Creative Focus Workshop, which is an even more intense, instructor-led process to set up strategies to help make your creative work happen.


Other things we talked about:


Ashley uses the Insight Timer - Meditation App. Abbie is probably going to download that ASAP and try the session Ashley recommends, “Five Minute Break for Reflection by Tony Brady”.


Atomic Habits by James Clear


The Girl in the Tower by Katherine Arden (Winternight Trilogy #2)


How to Talk So Little Kids Will Listen by Joanna Faber and Julie King


Amusing Ourselves to Death: Public Discourse in the Age of Show Business by Neil Postman (updated edition!)


King of Scars by Leigh Bardugo


Here’s where you can find Ashley:


Personal blog: http://www.ashleybrookswrites.com


Business website: http://www.brookseditorial.com


Instagram: http://instagram.com/brookseditorial


Twitter: http://twitter.com/brookseditorial


Pinterest: http://pinterest.com/brookseditorial


Here’s where you can find Abbie:


Website: http://www.inkwellsandimages.com


Instagram: http://instagram.com/abbigailekriebs


Twitter: http://twitter.com/abbigailekriebs


Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/abbigailekriebs/


Facebook: http://facebook.com/inkwellsandimages

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