The purpose of CelesteTheTherapist is to help shift the way you think. Many times, we get stuck in a negative cycle and struggle with getting out. Celeste will interview guests from different backgrounds who empower people in different capacities.

Today I had the pleasure of sitting with David Swanson www.dwswanson.com/ 

David is the founding pastor of New Community Covenant Church, a multiracial congregation on the South Side of Chicago. He also serves as the CEO of New Community Outreach, a non-profit organization working to reduce causes of trauma and raise opportunities for equity in Chicago. David's book, Rediscipling the White Church: From Cheap Diversity to True Discipleship, is available now.

We discussed :

What does discipling look like How white people are conditioned from a young age to think of themselves as superior based off the systems How white people can begin to work on reconciliation 

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