God's Responsibility In The Fall
Continuing to look at God's responsibility when it comes to evil, we look at God's responsibility in the Fall of mankind. Both sides of the choice debate have to recognize the Fall as something unique and comes with their own set of questions. Which side is the most consistent AND the most biblical?

Genesis 50 offers up one of the best biblical views of divine determinism as well as the moral responsibility of man for evil alone but God's decree of that same evil. Evil does not exist independently from God. God is not reacting to evil. God is not surprised by evil. God is not being forced to deal with evil. There is no conflict in determinism when approached fairly.

Then we look at the Fall and see that Adam and Eve seem to offer up a special case and because of the limits to the metaphysical nature of man pre-Fall, we come up with a mystery. With all that being said, we still see that God is still sovereign in the Fall. It was not an accident and it was not God being a puppet master and forcing Adam & Eve to sin.

This chapter is really preparing the way for Christensen to present his own theodicy that incorporates all the issues he's presented so far along with the biblical narrative truth God provided.
Timeline:
00:00 - Introduction
03:22 - God Decrees Evil But Is Not Morally Responsible
04:51 - Joseph & His Brothers As The Best Example
07:05 - Evil Does Not Exist Independent Of God
08:10 - No Conflict With Determinism
10:20 - The Biggest Problem - The Fall Of Man
15:19 - Adam & Eve Were Not Puppets
17:22 - God Is Still Sovereign In The Fall Into Sin
23:05 - Was God The Direct Cause Of The First Sin? No.
25:57 - The Fall Was Not An Accident
29:40 - Conclusion

The episode link is cavetothecross.com/ep160/

Books mentioned in this episode:

What about Evil? A Defense of God's Sovereign Glory by Scott Christensen
Kindle - https://amzn.to/2UeV3tt
Hardcover - https://amzn.to/3xGsxP6
Logos Link
ChristianBook Link

 

 

 

 

 

What About Free Will? Reconciling Our Choices with God's Sovereignty by Scott Christensen
Kindle - https://amzn.to/37SNE6i
Paperback - https://amzn.to/37ZLyl7

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God’s Responsibility In The Fall

Continuing to look at God’s responsibility when it comes to evil, we look at God’s responsibility in the Fall of mankind. Both sides of the choice debate have to recognize the Fall as something unique and comes with their own set of questions. Which side is the most consistent AND the most biblical?


Genesis 50 offers up one of the best biblical views of divine determinism as well as the moral responsibility of man for evil alone but God’s decree of that same evil. Evil does not exist independently from God. God is not reacting to evil. God is not surprised by evil. God is not being forced to deal with evil. There is no conflict in determinism when approached fairly.


Then we look at the Fall and see that Adam and Eve seem to offer up a special case and because of the limits to the metaphysical nature of man pre-Fall, we come up with a mystery. With all that being said, we still see that God is still sovereign in the Fall. It was not an accident and it was not God being a puppet master and forcing Adam & Eve to sin.


This chapter is really preparing the way for Christensen to present his own theodicy that incorporates all the issues he’s presented so far along with the biblical narrative truth God provided.


Timeline:

00:00 – Introduction

03:22 – God Decrees Evil But Is Not Morally Responsible

04:51 – Joseph & His Brothers As The Best Example

07:05 – Evil Does Not Exist Independent Of God

08:10 – No Conflict With Determinism

10:20 – The Biggest Problem – The Fall Of Man

15:19 – Adam & Eve Were Not Puppets

17:22 – God Is Still Sovereign In The Fall Into Sin

23:05 – Was God The Direct Cause Of The First Sin? No.

25:57 – The Fall Was Not An Accident

29:40 – Conclusion


The episode link is cavetothecross.com/ep160/


Books mentioned in this episode:


What about Evil? A Defense of God’s Sovereign Glory by Scott Christensen

Kindle – https://amzn.to/2UeV3tt

Hardcover – https://amzn.to/3xGsxP6

Logos Link

ChristianBook Link


 


 


 


 



 


What About Free Will? Reconciling Our Choices with God’s Sovereignty by Scott Christensen

Kindle – https://amzn.to/37SNE6i

Paperback – https://amzn.to/37ZLyl7


“As an Amazon Associate, we earn income to support us from qualifying purchases.”