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Late-summer update! This week on the program, we bring you a super spicy interview that Justin did on the TechZing podcast.

Do you really need to build an audience before you build your product?Justin's tweetThere's this idea that you need to grow an audience, talk to an audience, and then build something they want. Is that really necessary?IndieHackers interview with Vincent Woojustinjackson.ca/surfingTweet: what do we mean when we say "audience?"

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