Break Form
12 episodes - English - Latest episode: about 6 years ago - ★★★★★ - 23 ratingsBreak Form is a podcast that challenges conventional narratives about career, creativity, and success. We, your hosts, are Annette and Sarah, two former(ish) lawyers turned writers. We're on a quest for deeper meaning and fulfillment. Follow along as we navigate our changing identities and careers.
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Episodes
Ep. 011 - Rachel Garcia and Thu Tran of The Singer and The Songwriter
July 17, 2018 04:00 - 37.4 MBLet there be music! In this episode, Annette and Sarah are excited to incorporate Vis Viva, a song by The Singer and The Songwriter, into the podcast. While Sarah celebrates Mother’s Day with her family, Annette dives into a conversation with Rachel Garcia and Thu Tran, the creative couple behind The Singer and The Songwriter. After years of relegating music to "nights and weekends" (check out the music video below!) while living in Los Angeles, Rachel and Thu decided to pack up their b...
Ep. 010 - Two Lawyers Care for Their Souls
May 01, 2018 04:00 - 40.4 MBOn this tenth episode of Break Form, in addition to talking about what's been happening in their respective lives (Sarah gets crafty in anticipation of her son's first birthday, itches to write, and has an (awake) dream involving a bear. Annette remembers what makes legal work stressful as she attempts to balance contract work while building her business and trying to write), Sarah and Annette get soulful by discussing Thomas Moore's book, Care of the Soul. Unlike self-help books which tou...
Ep. 009 - Sara Rezvanpour Rose, Creative Counsel at Jungalow
March 14, 2018 03:59 - 63.7 MBSara Rezvanpour Rose (@sararezrose) went from being a closeted creative who “passed” as an attorney to Creative Counsel at Jungalow (@thejungalow), a wild bohemian lifestyle brand focused on interior design and home furnishings. The process taught Sara about worthiness, authenticity, vulnerability, and reaffirmed her belief in the power of manifestation, patience, and hustle. Today, Sara handles a range of tasks for Jungalow, from copywriting and setting up for photo shoots to negotiating d...
Ep. 008 - Tracy Lawrence, CEO and Co-Founder of Chewse
February 20, 2018 05:00 - 41.6 MBOur inaugural podcast guest is Tracy Lawrence, CEO and Co-Founder of Chewse. Chewse is an office meal program with a heart: Tracy calls it a "love company"—a company where emotional intelligence is a core tenet. To date, Chewse has handled nearly 2 million meal deliveries and has brought in more than $14 million in revenue, feeding thousands of employees delicious meals every day from local San Francisco and Los Angeles restaurants. As for Tracy, she was recently named Forbes 30 Under 30 C...
Ep. 007 - The New Year
January 27, 2018 07:05 - 41.7 MBHaving just returned from a silent meditation retreat, Annette shares her experience spending several days in silence in the desert. Her year begins with thoughts about meaning-making and self-compassion. She continues her post-law journey living in “experimental” mode, and observing what energizes her (helping others, yes; working for the pursuit of money, no). She recalls how she moved through much of her early life conforming to a mold of a good student who could get a good job, and hidin...
Ep. 006 - What's the Story?
November 24, 2017 18:03 - 27.7 MBWe talk about what it means to resist categorical thinking and the often false narratives we construct about our own lives. From Annette’s participation in a bar association panel as a non-lawyer, to Sarah’s grappling with loss of identity, there is a need to rewrite the story we want our lives to tell, which means embracing the uncertainty of the creative process. We discuss how contemplative silence allows us to shed other people's expectations and to dismantle linear narratives all too co...
Ep. 005 - The Abyss
November 01, 2017 16:55 - 26.7 MBSo we quit. Now what? Sarah and Annette discuss what they've been up to since leaving the law and their respective paths to creative recovery. Sarah shares how being a new mother has added a sense of urgency to her creative endeavors, and Annette confronts her need to feel productive in the absence of a traditional work schedule. The episode begins with a trip down memory lane, except it's a memory Sarah doesn't recall. References: The Artist's Date is a concept from Julia Cameron's book, ...
Ep. 004 - Money Matters
November 01, 2017 16:52 - 31 MBIn this episode, Sarah and Annette talk money matters. The decision to leave our law jobs meant thinking through (and continuing to think through) what money means to us. In this conversation we explore where our values regarding money come from, and why we work. We challenge the view that time = money (as is literally the case in the law) and question whether there might be an alternative approach. References: The New York Times Sketch Guy: link The Artist’s Way, by Julia Cameron, is av...
Ep. 003 - Transitions
October 10, 2017 04:46 - 36 minutes - 24.9 MBLots of transitions! Sarah just gave birth to her first child! Annette just gave her two-weeks’ notice! In this episode, Sarah gives her sleep-deprived thoughts on what it’s like to be a new mother, and Annette shares how it feels to publicly announce her departure from the law to pursue writing and other creative projects. Our apologies for the loud chirping brought to you by Sarah’s rambunctious parrotlets.
Ep. 002 - Sarah's Journey in Biglaw
October 10, 2017 04:45 - 43 minutes - 29.7 MBSarah looks back at her bewildering years as a lawyer in Biglaw and talks about how she made the decision to leave.
Ep. 001 - Origin Story
October 10, 2017 04:43 - 25 minutes - 17.5 MBSarah and Annette trace their roots to rural California and cosmopolitan Hong Kong and reflect on how they ended up as lawyers in Los Angeles.
Welcome to Break Form
October 10, 2017 04:38 - 3 minutes - 2.39 MBWhen Sarah and Annette reunited in Los Angeles, they were both recent law school graduates studying for the bar exam. After passing the bar and starting their legal careers, they found themselves questioning whether the legal profession was right for them. In addition to asking themselves whether to leave the law, Sarah and Annette began asking bigger questions and sharing resources on how to better align their lives to their values and how to allow space for greater creativity and fulfillme...