Bossed Up
454 episodes - English - Latest episode: 11 days ago - ★★★★★ - 391 ratingsAre you ready to step up as the boss of your life? Emilie Aries breaks down career conundrums with expert interviews to help women navigate career transition and step up as the boss of their careers. Whether you're in the job search, starting a side hustle, climbing a corporate ladder, or an experienced entrepreneur, join Bossed Up's community of courageous women who lift as they climb.
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Entrepreneurship vs. Employment: Building a Blended Career
April 16, 2024 09:00 - 47 minutes - 43.8 MBCommunity, connection, and collaboration: these are the keys to our survival as a species if you ask Baily Hancock, a community architect and strategist with more than three decades of experience. Prioritizing these concepts within both her own career trajectory and her client work has positioned Baily as an expert and thought leader who helps organizations conceptualize, launch, and grow successful communities. In this episode, she shares what she’s learned about leveraging community, lean...
Your Cover Letter Is Better With Bullet Points
April 09, 2024 09:00 - 9 minutes - 8.96 MBWriting cover letters is stressful. If I surveyed a thousand job seekers about their least favorite parts of the job search, I bet most of them would put this task near the top of their list. But as awful as they can be, they’re still important and can help set you apart. A good cover letter lets you highlight the most important details of your application right away. Here’s my straightforward, bullet point-based cover letter strategy that will help you curb the overwhelm and get right to ...
How To Become More Resilient as an Underrepresented Leader
April 02, 2024 09:00 - 31 minutes - 28.6 MBResiliency is an important trait for any leader, but the systemic barriers that underrepresented professionals face, on top of persisting gender and racial gaps, make this skill even more vital. My guest, Jacqueline Twillie, quite literally wrote the book on resiliency for these leaders, drawing on her experience working to reduce worldwide inequity. In this episode, we discuss her book and her approach to strategic sustainability for leaders facing these challenging dynamics. From the cyc...
Job Search Success: How To Optimize Your LinkedIn Profile Skills Section
March 26, 2024 09:00 - 14 minutes - 13.5 MBHow does your LinkedIn Skills section look these days? Whether or not you’re currently on the hunt for new employment opportunities, this is your friendly reminder to get your Skills section in order. LinkedIn places a huge focus on this section of your profile when it comes to recruiters looking for candidates. In this episode, I walk you through how to amp up your Skills section. With everything we have to do, wouldn’t it be nice to let LinkedIn take some of the hard work of job searching...
Cross-Cultural Communication in Leadership
March 19, 2024 09:00 - 40 minutes - 37 MBWhether an organization’s teams are centered in a single city or dispersed across the world, cultural differences inevitably emerge. For leaders accustomed to knowing the answers and acting on their singular understanding of situations, it can be difficult to recognize these differences, much less level up the listening skills needed to address them for the good of their organization. For more than 10 years, Hawa Kombian has worked within and alongside companies in Canada, Ghana, and more, ...
3 Tips For Managing Too Many Meetings
March 12, 2024 09:00 - 13 minutes - 12 MBHow many meeting invites do you get each week? If your company is like many American organizations, it’s probably too many. Recent research shows that 70% of all company meetings are keeping teams from completing their tasks. On top of that, a Harvard Business Review article reports that “Ineffective meetings that waste our time can negatively impact psychological, physical, and mental well-being.” Yikes! In this episode, I share three steps that can help reduce meeting overwhelm. There’s ...
Are Pay Transparency Laws Working?
March 05, 2024 10:00 - 32 minutes - 30.2 MBPay transparency is one of our policy priorities at Bossed Up, and in this episode, I speak with a scholar who studies the subject: Zoë Cullen. An assistant professor of entrepreneurial management at Harvard Business School, Zoë has spent the last decade studying gender gaps within the workforce, and most recently has focused on the effects of pay transparency laws. Her research reveals a lot of interesting information about what pay transparency means for individual workers, career motiva...
How To Ask For A Reference During Your Job Search
February 27, 2024 10:00 - 10 minutes - 9.17 MBWhen you need a reference, what’s the first thing you do? Almost everyone looking for a new job will need a reference or two, and a former employer is the most common choice. However customary this exchange might be, though, no one appreciates having a reference call sprung on them without warning. I recently received just such an out-of-the-blue reference check. The uncomfortable experience prompted me to pull together four tips for putting your best foot forward when you come to this poin...
Navigate the Anxiety That Comes With A Promotion
February 20, 2024 10:00 - 39 minutes - 36.4 MBMost of us have or will experience the classic post-promotion “freakout.” This crushing crisis of confidence leaves us wondering how we got here and whether we can handle our new responsibilities. Jodi Flynn, a leadership development expert with more than a decade of experience helping organizations with attracting, developing, and successfully promoting more women into senior levels of leadership, often helps clients through this transitional time and remembers well the feeling of navigatin...
4 Steps to On-Ramp Back Into the Job Search After Taking a Career Break
February 13, 2024 10:00 - 12 minutes - 11.5 MBRecently, a member of my HIRED Job Search Accelerator community asked a very important and relevant question: how do I get back into the job search after years away? If you or someone you know is preparing to take the plunge back into the working world, the four tips in this episode will familiarize you with how the job hunt landscape has changed and leave you feeling more confident in the career skills you still possess. Prepare for this big transition by understanding: The importance o...
The Problem With Self-Help
February 06, 2024 10:00 - 38 minutes - 35.4 MBWhat’s the last self-help book you read? These days, whatever life change you’re hoping for, there’s a self-help guru and their associated memoir eager to explain how they did it and you can too. The problem is that most of these books are written by the people for whom our capitalist society was built. In this episode, I speak with Sharon Podobnik, a seasoned executive leadership coach and former self-help fiend whose questioning of the industry led her to write her new book, It’s Not (All...
Dealing With Low-Ball Job Offers
January 30, 2024 10:00 - 18 minutes - 16.9 MBWhat do you do if a job offer comes in with a low-ball salary? In this episode, I dig into a topic inspired by a listener's email that echoes the experiences of many job seekers. The thrill of a job offer in your inbox can be quickly curtailed by a proposed salary that doesn’t even hit the bottom of your range. The let-down stems from a combination of systemic issues around hiring, genuine frustration and stress, and possibly some unrealistic expectations. I explain what’s going on behind t...
The Impact of Stress Reduction on Infertility
January 23, 2024 10:00 - 39 minutes - 36 MBContent warning: this blog post and podcast episode include mentions of pregnancy loss. Odds are, you either know someone or are someone who has experienced infertility or pregnancy loss firsthand. The visibility of this common but traumatic experience has been on the rise, but there’s still a lot to do before people feel as comfortable discussing a pregnancy loss as they do a migraine or knee surgery. In this episode, I speak with Dr. Alice Domar, a psychologist and the Chief Compassion...
The Succession Gap and the Growing Value of Your Leadership Aspirations
January 16, 2024 10:00 - 15 minutes - 14 MBDo you aspire to lead others? If yes, you’re in the minority. New research shows that fewer and fewer people are expressing the desire to take on leadership roles, with women and Gen Z workers being chief among those losing interest. In this episode, I take a look at what’s behind this hesitance to pursue promotions to people management. Then, we’ll dive into what companies need to do to encourage and support their workforce to close this succession gap. Tune in now to learn: How the succ...
Leverage Your Fear to Fuel Your Growth
January 09, 2024 10:00 - 42 minutes - 39 MBContent warning: this episode includes mentions of pregnancy loss. Growing up, we’re often taught to deny or fight our fears. Fear is weakness, as you may have been told, and the only way to get ahead in the world is to become fearless. But since that’s all but impossible, we wind up spending precious energy we could be putting toward our goals erecting a stone wall around our fears when, in fact, acknowledging and respecting our fears could help us flourish! In this episode, I speak with F...
Grow Your Professional Network in the New Year
January 02, 2024 10:00 - 20 minutes - 18.8 MBHow have you been making time for building connections? This is not an easy thing to schedule in around work responsibilities, family events, and hard-earned relaxation time, but it is an important and uplifting part of establishing and growing your leadership community. I dedicated myself to this pursuit wholeheartedly in 2023, and I came away from it with pride in what I accomplished and three takeaways to help you implement networking in your own 2024 strategic plan. Let this be the year...
The Economic Imperative of Affordable Childcare
December 26, 2023 10:00 - 35 minutes - 32.8 MBRaise your hand if being a mom and working away from home has you STRESSED! Most parents would agree: one of the biggest challenges you face in the early years is figuring out how to patch together childcare you can actually afford! Most parents in the U.S. have felt the impact of our poor childcare economy. Stiff competition for daycare entry, care coverage that doesn’t reflect the average work schedule, and costs that make it almost impossible for parents of littles to return to work at ...
3 Steps To Celebrate Your Wins
December 19, 2023 10:00 - 26 minutes - 24.6 MBWhat wins are you celebrating in 2023? Whether the past year was a breeze or the worst one yet, it’s time to pour yourself a glass of bubbly (or Bubly) and announce aloud all the ways you shine. Let’s jumpstart your year-end reflections. In this episode, I present three steps that will help you add a celebratory angle to your 2023 review and really remind you that you made progress this year, no matter what your 2024 to-do lists might look like. You’ll leave equipped with some inspo to ge...
Critical Conversations that Drive Inclusive Leadership
December 12, 2023 10:00 - 51 minutes - 47.6 MBHow can you bring more courageous conversations into your practice of inclusive leadership? In recent years, more and more leaders are seeking to understand what inclusive leadership really means and how to build it into our ever-evolving organization models. It’s not easy work and, all too often, defensiveness and white fragility rear up as soon as the feedback is anything other than complimentary. This episode is a sometimes spicy take on courageous conversations and inclusivity in the wo...
How To Recalibrate Your Career
December 05, 2023 10:00 - 27 minutes - 25.2 MBHow does your career align with your values, and how do you even begin figuring that out? These are questions more of us have started asking this year, as we stop accepting career dissatisfaction and burnout as “just how it is” and re-evaluate our relationship to work. In this episode, I share an approach to career recalibration that has really resonated with me, one that places less of a focus on identifying your core values and more on identifying the tangible pieces that are and are not ...
Women, Money, & Power in Divorce
November 28, 2023 10:00 - 33 minutes - 30.3 MBDealing with divorce can be an overwhelming process, piled atop of what may already be a heartbreaking betrayal. But it can also be an empowering experience in which you take charge of your financial future. Today on the podcast, I sit down with fraud coach Tracy Coenen, CPA, CFF, MAFF, to learn how to prepare for divorce prudently, how to advocate for your financial future, and how to go from overwhelmed to empowered through divorce. Related links: See Tracy's recommended resources at ...
How to Become an Inspiring, Visionary Leader
November 21, 2023 10:00 - 12 minutes - 11.7 MBWomen managers have been rated better or equal to men on every leadership characteristic except one: envisioning. So what does it mean to be a visionary leader - and what does it matter? I'm diving in to the gender dynamics of visionary leadership and why it's so crucial for women leader's long-term impact. Related links: Level Up: my leadership accelerator for women on the rise HBR: Women and the Vision Thing Dec 14: An Evening with Mayor Anna Stout - join me in Denver! Learn more ...
Finding Your Voice at Work
November 14, 2023 10:00 - 38 minutes - 34.9 MBHave you struggled to find your voice at work? Have you started self-silencing? Or overthinking your every sentence? Today's episode with Samara Bay, author of Permission to Speak, is for you. We're breaking down why it's so challenging to speak up and be heard at work, how to counter voice bias with voice justice, and how to embrace your voice as "the new sound of power." Related links: Speak Up: my 8-week assertive communications course Samara's book, Permission to Speak Follow Sam...
The Broken Rung of Leadership
November 07, 2023 15:08 - 17 minutes - 15.7 MBWe've all heard about the "glass ceiling" women leaders face at the highest ranks of their careers. But there's a more significant barrier that contributes to the gender leadership gap: the "broken rung" of leadership. In today's episode I'm breaking down what the "broken rung" of leadership is all about and how we - as individuals and organizations - can disrupt the status quo, support emerging women leaders, and strive for gender equality in leadership together. Related links: Level ...
Women of Color in Leadership and Trauma at Work
October 31, 2023 09:00 - 30 minutes - 28.3 MBIn today's episode, I sit down with Marisol Solarte-Erlacher, M.A., LPC, a trauma expert and resilience consultant specializing in supporting women of color through post-traumatic growth. Together we break down: The differences between chronic stress, burnout, and trauma; How women of color in leadership can sustain themselves; And how we all can create more inclusive workplaces where all people can thrive. Related links include: Learn more about Marisol here Resilience and Resist...
The Gender Confidence Gap Myth
October 24, 2023 09:00 - 11 minutes - 11 MBYou've heard the "stat" before: men tend to apply for jobs when they meet only 60% of the qualifications and women only once they reach 100% of them. We're supposed to conclude that women simply need more confidence to stretch outside their comfort zone, right? Wrong. In today's episode, I'm diving into the details and breaking down why perpetuating this myth is so harmful. Related links: HIRED: my job search accelerator HBR: Why Women Don't Apply for Jobs Unless They're 100% Qualified...
The jobs of America's next Silicon Valley
October 17, 2023 09:00 - 33 minutes - 31.1 MBYou may have heard lately about the importance of chips - also often referred to as microchips or semiconductors. Today's episode with Kylie Patterson, Senior Advisor for Opportunity and Inclusion at the US Department of Commerce, breaks down: why chips are so important; how our government is getting involved to spur growth and innovation, and how we can ensure that our tax dollars that go towards creating the jobs of the future can remove obstacles along the way that have historically p...
On Being White and Latina
October 12, 2023 15:17 - 16 minutes - 15 MBIn today's episode, I'm sharing my personal experience being white and Latina. This Hispanic Heritage Month, I feel compelled to talk more publicly about my relationship with race and ethnicity, and better understand the difference between the two. Related links: Blair Imani on Race vs. Ethnicity on Instagram Latinidad Is Cancelled - an essay on the problematic nature of "Latin" identity The Bossed Up Courage Community on Facebook The Bossed Up Group on Linkedin
What Actually Creates Gender Equality at Work
October 03, 2023 09:00 - 17 minutes - 15.9 MBI've spent the last 10 years helping women boss up - by getting hired, speaking up, and leveling up. I've worked with incredible organizations, activated allies, hell, I wrote the book on bossin' up and have been a featured speaker on stages across the globe. But still...it's not enough. In today's episode I'm sharing a big shift I'm navigating to make sure we're actually "lifting as we climb." Related links: Take Action Bossed Up for Organizations Level Up Speak Up HIRED LinkedI...
The Top Struggles of High Achievers
September 26, 2023 09:00 - 43 minutes - 39.8 MBOn today's exceptionally raw and real episode, I sit down with Chris Castillo, mindset coach for high achievers and the Founder of Empowered Achievers. We break down the common ways high achievers can run into struggle, and unpack how to move through it with some on-the-spot coaching by Chris. Related links: Ep 138 with Chris: A Confusing Career Change Read that story about Jim Carey's dad in my book, Bossed Up Follow Chris on TikTok Learn more about Chris' programs on her website
Interview Tips for Candidates with a Non-Traditional Background
September 19, 2023 09:00 - 34 minutes - 31.6 MBAre you a job-seeker navigating a big career pivot? Interviewing with a "non-traditional" background can pose a challenge. In today's episode, I sit down with federal agent-turned-career coach, Crystal Barrow, to talk through these challenges and more: How to find the courage to make a big career pivot How to explain your "non-traditional" background in the job interview How to deal with ageism, sexism, racism, and more systemic obstacles along the way Related links from today's dis...
I was called 'aggressive' at work...now what?
September 12, 2023 09:00 - 13 minutes - 12.3 MBEveryday, women are wrongfully mislabeled as "aggressive" for simply speaking up in the workplace. When this happens to you, what's the best way to respond? Tune in to today's episode to learn: How to concisely push back when you're being mislabeled When to call someone in or out And how to turn the conversation into a teachable moment. Related links: Level Up: my 6-month leadership accelerator Speak Up: my 8-week assertive communication course Ep 417: The Truth About Women'...
Ambition, Exhaustion, and Sleep Disorders in the Workplace
September 05, 2023 09:00 - 35 minutes - 32.7 MBWhen Lindsay Scola first told a doctor that she was having problems with sleep, her doctor replied that, "busy people are tired." This became something of a badge of honor for Lindsay as she pursued an ambitious career in activism and entertainment over the next 15 years, until finally her challenges with sleep became debilitating. She was finally diagnosed with narcolepsy at the age of 35 and is now on a mission to make sleep health and sleep equity a reality for all. Tune in to today's e...
The truth about women's communication in the workplace
August 29, 2023 09:00 - 11 minutes - 10.8 MBIf you ask 5 people for their advice on how women should speak up at work, you're likely to get 5 different answers. That's because, it seems, everyone has something to say about how women communicate at work. We're either too much or too little, too loud or too quiet, too direct or too passive, depending on who you ask. In today's episode, I share the more complex reality underlying all human communication, and why at the end of the day, the most important power women have is to choose ...
How Leadership Accountability Builds Trust in the Workplace
August 22, 2023 09:00 - 37 minutes - 34.3 MBIn today's episode, I sit down with Charlyn Moss, the Founder of Working Within, a resource platform that helps Black social enterprise leaders access revenue to scale their impact organizations. We explore Charlyn's journey to leadership, leadership philosophy, and the delicate balancing act of building trust while providing accountability as a leader. Related links: WorkingWithin.net The Forge: Building Resilience Organizations by Maurice Mitchell Level Up: Bossed Up's Leadership A...
How to use AI to write cover letters faster
August 15, 2023 09:00 - 8 minutes - 7.57 MBIf writing cover letters has you constantly stuck in writer’s block, here's how AI can help accelerate your job search. Read today's corresponding blog post HIRED: our job search accelerator Ep 365: How to write a meaningful cover letter for today's competitive job market The Bossed Up Courage Community The Bossed Up Group on Linkedin
New rights for pregnant workers
August 08, 2023 09:00 - 26 minutes - 24 MBAfter 10 years of advocacy, we finally have new protections for pregnant workers across the US. Tune in to hear from Sarah Brafman, National Policy Director at A Better Balance, to learn: What the Pregnant Workers Fairness Act means for US employees and employers; Why the Pregnancy Discrimination Act of 1978 and the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990 still didn't provide protections for most pregnant workers; The role we all must play to spread the word about these critical new pr...
How to keep your resumes and cover letters organized on the job search
August 01, 2023 09:00 - 9 minutes - 8.66 MBAre you drowning in different versions of you resume and cover letter? You're not alone. Navigating the modern job search often means submitting more applications than ever before. Today's episode is all about how to stay organized while still customizing you materials for each application. Related links: Bureau of Labor Statistics report on job-seeker numbers HIRED: our job search accelerator Bossed Up's free job-seeker's resource hub Ep 361: Top tips to get your resume past applicant...
Neurodiversity at Work
July 25, 2023 09:00 - 35 minutes - 32.4 MBWhat is neurodiversity? And does it fit into broader diversity, equity, and inclusion efforts? Today I sit down with Amanda Kelly (D.Psych), President and CEO of Firefly Autism and Co-Founder of the Colorado Neurodiversity Chamber of Commerce (CNDCC), to learn: what "neurodiversity" means, the alarming state of under and unemployment affecting the autistic population, how organizations can benefit from being more neuroinclusive, and how we all can advocate for a more nuerodiverse, incl...
How long should I wait to follow up after I apply for a job?
July 18, 2023 09:00 - 10 minutes - 9.7 MBApplying for a job can feel like throwing an application into a black hole - so it's tempting to follow up immediately to make sure your materials were received. But while reiterating your interest in a position can draw positive attention to your application, it can also backfire if done carelessly. Tune into today's episode to learn how to circle back without being a bother, the timing HR professionals say works best, and word-for-word examples of polite and to-the-point follow-up! Rela...
Let Go of Perfection to Pursue Soft Success
July 11, 2023 09:00 - 37 minutes - 34.1 MBHave you been driving yourself into the ground getting after your goals? On today's podcast, I sit down for a candid conversation with award-winning journalist, speaker, and author L'Oreal Thompson Payton, a self-professed success junkie and poster girl for "overly" ambitious high achievers everywhere. We discuss the humbling journey of new motherhood, overcoming perfectionism to take career risks, and envision a way forward in pursuit of a softer form of success that doesn't involve chr...
Which jobs should you NOT apply to?
July 04, 2023 09:00 - 14 minutes - 13 MBI’m a big believer in being targeted and strategic when deciding how to spend your time and energy as a job-seeker. If you want to be as persuasive as possible and put forward tailored, customized applications, you must be thoughtful about which job descriptions make the cut. Related links: HIRED: our job search accelerator Today's corresponding blog post 4 ways to interview the company that's interviewing you The 5 big benefits of a bridge job Join the Bossed Up Courage Community Jo...
Women and the Ambition Penalty
June 27, 2023 09:00 - 30 minutes - 28 MBToday we're diving into "the ambition penalty" with writer Stefanie O'Connell Rodriguez and talking all about women, ambition, work, and love. Related links: Glamour UK: Forget the ambition gap, it's the ‘ambition penalty’ that's really holding women back at work Learn more about how Bossed Up serves teams A 2010 study on men, depression, and alcohol misuse Learn more about the motherhood pay penalty & fatherhood bonus on this episode of Stuff Mom Never Told You Department of Labor: ...
How to Delegate Without Feeling So Bad About It
June 20, 2023 09:00 - 11 minutes - 10.4 MBAre you hesitant to delegate? Do you feel bad about delegating? Does it leave you feeling guilty about giving work away to others? This "anticipatory anxiety" around delegation can seriously hold women leaders back, and prevents you from developing leadership in those around you. Tune into today's episode to learn how to reframe delegation like a boss. Related links: Today's corresponding blog post Level Up: our leadership accelerator for first-time and aspiring women managers Ep 265...
How Toxic Masculinity Ruins Workplaces
June 13, 2023 09:00 - 35 minutes - 32.7 MBWhat is the worst behavior tolerated in your workplace? Have you seen colleagues yelled at or berated? Told to just "suck it up" or "walk it off" when bad things happen? Do you feel like you need to "man up" to get ahead? These are signs and symptoms of toxic masculine leadership at work. On today's episode, I sit down with speaker and workplace consultant Jeff Harry, who combines positive psychology and play to heal workplaces and help teams build psychological safety. Related links: ...
How to Be More Persuasive and Influence Without Authority
June 06, 2023 09:00 - 24 minutes - 22.8 MBI hear from so many women leaders I work with that one of the biggest challenges inherent in a highly matrixed environment boils down to influencing without authority. If you’ve ever been left wondering, “How on earth do I get this person to do the thing I need them to do, despite not having any authority over them?” - today’s episode is for you! Related links: Today's corresponding blog post Level Up: our leadership accelerator for aspiring & first-time women managers Ep 322: How to Be...
How to Inclusively Celebrate DEI Holidays and Heritage Months at Work
May 30, 2023 09:00 - 28 minutes - 26.2 MBWhat's the right way to celebrate diversity, equity, and inclusion related holidays and heritage months at work? With Juneteenth on the horizon, Emilie sat down with DEI practitioner Veronique Porter to learn how organizations can avoid missteps and plan intentionally inclusive programming around heritage months and holidays. Related links: McKinsey: These Women Experience the Highest Levels of Microaggressions The Art of Gathering by Priya Parker Learn more about the DEI work Bossed ...
How First-Time Managers Can Embrace Coaching
May 23, 2023 09:00 - 12 minutes - 11.8 MBSo many first-time managers I work with are used to being the star player, not the coach. But that habit can prove challenging when navigating the transition from individual contributor to first-time manager. Tune in for today's boss tip episode to learn how emerging leaders can - and truly must - embrace coaching to be more effective. Related links: Today's corresponding blog post Bossed Up's Level Up Leadership Accelerator Harvard Business Review: the Leader as Coach Learn more abo...
How to Financially Prepare for Layoffs
May 16, 2023 09:00 - 31 minutes - 28.7 MBWhen faced with an uncertain, volatile economy, it makes sense that many of us are feeling anxious about the possibility of layoffs. Whether you've already been impacted personally, or are worried about the possibility of layoffs coming for you next, today's episode with financial advisor Cris Caruso will help. Related resources: HIRED: our job search accelerator - now available on demand! 4 Best Practices to Navigate Layoff Anxiety & Uncertainty Join our Courage Community on Faceboo...
How to Find a Sponsor at Work to Advance Your Career
May 09, 2023 09:00 - 22 minutes - 20.8 MBReality check: nobody finds a sponsor. You have to make a sponsor. So today, I want to focus this podcast on how you can be an agent of change, actively involved in this generative and dynamic process. Related links: How to Find a Sponsor at Work to Advance Your Career How to Have Effective Networking Meetings How to Follow Up to Build Relationships How to Get a Male Mentor How to Tap Your Network and Ask for Help How to Be a Leader People Actually Like Is Mentorship in Remote Workp...