"WHO has come out strongly against simple medicines like Ivermectin despite the fact that there is so much data showing that it is effective in treating COVID. This is because the vaccine lobby is very strong and they don't allow these medicines to get the publicity they deserve," says Kavery Nambisan, author of 'A Luxury Called Health', a memoir of her four-decade-long career as a surgeon in rural and small-town India. In this wide-ranging conversation with Manjula Narayan on this week's Books and Authors podcast, she speaks about treating wounded dacoits in Bihar, the problem with charity treatment, the pain of watching her husband, the poet Vijay Nambisan, succumb to cancer, her admiration for nurses who are "the trendsetters of women's liberation" in India, the effectiveness of alternative treatments like Ayurveda and homoeopathy in some cases, and the almost comic humourlessness of the extremely religious.