Bipodisan
120 episodes - English - Latest episode: over 2 years ago - ★★★★★ - 67 ratingsSince the 2016 election, there have been more than 1,600 political podcasts launched in the United States. Almost all of them feature Democrats talking to Democrats and Republicans talking with Republicans. Isn’t it time for a podcast in which the other side talks back? Welcome to“Bipodisan,” because it's time for a podcast in which opposites respectfully talk, not shout, about the issues dividing America!
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Episodes
9/11: Then and Now…and Now What?
September 11, 2021 05:00 - 40 minutes - 18.4 MBJean and Cicely share their personal memories of 9/11 and of life in Washington, DC since that day before taking a balanced look at the more recent past, including the United States’ disastrous exit from Afghanistan and President Biden’s announcement on vaccine mandates.
Bipodisan Is Back!!!
September 06, 2021 15:00 - 10 minutes - 4.87 MBAfter a summer hiatus, Bipodisan is back! Jean Card introduces new co-host Cicely Simpson and gets us ready for more political debate that's "red & blue, not black & blue".
Gonzales on Elections
June 25, 2021 01:00 - 28 minutes - 13 MBFormer U.S. Attorney General Alberto Gonzales joins Robert and Jean in their last episode before going on summer hiatus. Their discussion about the current fight over elections covers issues ranging from voter ID to the results of the 2020 presidential election, culminating in agreement around the need for Americans to find a “shared truth.” As always, there is hope at the end of this episode. Note: This will be our last episode of summer 2021 -- enjoy and we'll see you in the fall.
Our Better Angels
June 17, 2021 20:00 - 22 minutes - 10.3 MBBipodisan welcomes long-time friend Elizabeth Pinkerton to the show to discuss a week of national conversation and her experience running the President’s Commission on White House Fellowships — work which has informed Elizabeth’s writings on strategies that could bring Americans closer together. This episode ends on a particularly strong and meaningful moment of hope.
The "Motherf***" Episode
June 03, 2021 21:00 - 41 minutes - 18.9 MBThe Atlantic's Edward-Isaac Dovere joins the pod to discuss his new book, "Battle for the Soul," a newsy, inside account of how the Democrats went from 2016 defeat to 2020 victory. He tells Jean and Robert about Kamala Harris's favorite epithet, Bernie Sanders' travel tastes, why Obama is aloof to political reporters, and, more seriously, they discuss what President Biden is like in private, what Harris's political future may hold and what the GOP can learn from the Democrats' battle. Warnin...
If you’re not at the table, you’re on the menu.
May 22, 2021 13:00 - 36 minutes - 16.9 MBU.S. News & World Report Senior Political Writer Susan Milligan joins Jean and Robert for an insightful discussion about legislation to create a bipartisan commission to investigate the January 6th storming of the U.S. Capitol. Susan also shares new data on independent voter trends, and the three find hope in new additions to the pandemic lexicon, including “exponential-decay phase."
(Face)book 'em Donno!
May 06, 2021 22:00 - 33 minutes - 15.4 MBFreelance technology columnist Rob Pegoraro joins Jean and Robert to break down the Facebook v. Trump decision, including the big news most people are overlooking. The trio looks more broadly about the power of both big tech and The Donald.
Verdict vs. Solution
April 22, 2021 20:00 - 26 minutes - 12.3 MBJean and Robert agree that Derek Chauvin’s murder conviction was justice and discuss the pros and cons of bipartisan, federally mandated policing reform before finding common ground on the issue of D.C. statehood.
A Bridge Too Far
April 08, 2021 22:00 - 33 minutes - 15.3 MBJean and Robert dig in on infrastructure, speculate about where the parties might be able to build some bridges and then have a broader(band) discussion of the parties' philosophy about the size of government. Later, Jean discloses her secret lust.
Guns and Roads; History and Hugs
March 26, 2021 12:00 - 27 minutes - 12.4 MBThis week, Robert and Jean discuss one issue on which the partisan divide is as wide as possible (mass shootings and gun control) and another on which there is significant consensus and hope for bipartisan action (infrastructure investment). The hosts round out this episode by finding hope in history and hugs.
One Pandemic Year Later
March 12, 2021 18:00 - 35 minutes - 16.2 MBJean and Robert welcome back Diana Berrant, founder of Survivor Corps, for an update on the massive volunteer effort by COVID survivors to engage in citizen science. The second half of this episode is a thoughtful, appreciative and bipartisan analysis of President Joe Biden’s COVID-19 anniversary speech.
Green Eggs and Cuomo
March 04, 2021 21:00 - 30 minutes - 14.1 MBJean and Robert wonder whether to fret a squelch of Seuss. And why Democrats have not cut Andrew Cuomo loose. Tune in right now so you can see Where they align and where (respectfully) disagree.
Picked. Not Poked.
February 25, 2021 21:00 - 29 minutes - 13.7 MBOne year in to the COVID-19 pandemic and one month into a new presidency, Robert and Jean discuss their own COVID experiences (including the depth of nasal testing), changes in politics and news, the importance of a balanced information diet and the refreshingly normal push-and-pull in Congress over the size and specifics of the Biden COVID relief package. The co-hosts find hope in commissions and candles.
On Listening and Understanding
February 18, 2021 16:00 - 29 minutes - 13.6 MBDavid Murray, author of the forthcoming book “An Effort to Understand," is Bipodisan’s special guest this week. Robert, Jean and David apply their public speaking expertise to the matter of the speech that happens (or doesn’t happen) among our friends, neighbors and family members with whom we disagree. This episode ends on high hopeful notes of baseball and Yardi Gras.
Understanding Impeachment
February 11, 2021 20:00 - 42 minutes - 19.6 MBJean and Robert have a fascinating discussion with legal scholar Bruce Fein about the constitutional issues surrounding the second Trump impeachment trial. Then Robert shares why extraterrestrials are making him hopeful.
Punishing an Endless Stream of Batshittery
February 04, 2021 20:00 - 20 minutes - 9.47 MBJean and Robert politely wrestle with the question of what should be done with Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene. Is she simply the GOP’s problem? Should Congressional majorities tell Congressional minorities how to manage members of their own party? The hosts share concerns and manage to find hope on their respective sides of the aisle this week.
Will they make good sausage?
January 28, 2021 21:00 - 26 minutes - 12 MBRobert and Jean take a look at two tracks of policy and politics in Washington during the first week of Joe Biden’s presidency, as the remains of the Trump era are hashed out on Capitol Hill and the new president leans heavily on his pen to keep campaign promises. Will the two ends of Pennsylvania Avenue eventually work together to make the sausage of public policy, and will that sausage be palatable?
Context, Person and Text
January 24, 2021 05:00 - 31 minutes - 14.7 MBJean and Robert discuss President Joe Biden's inaugural address from the point of view of professional communicators (as well as from the point of view of Americans and partisans) and the prospects of bipartisan cooperation going forward.
Will Trump Become a Party Martyr?
January 15, 2021 00:00 - 36 minutes - 16.9 MBJean and Robert are joined by U.S. News & World Report Senior Political Writer Susan Milligan to analyze the ongoing politics around Trump’s second impeachment and the aftermath of the January 6th mob-attack on the U.S. Capitol. Their conversation explores the possible strategy of Republican Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, as well as speculation about how deep the GOP fractures may go, before ending on a shared, bipartisan note of hope.
"Are we going to have a civil war now?"
January 08, 2021 01:00 - 32 minutes - 14.7 MBRobert and Jean reflect on the previous day, when rioters stormed the U.S. Capitol, including the moment when Robert’s son asked if the country was going into civil war. The co-hosts agree that we are not, and share their observations, perspectives, shared sorrows and hopes.
Talking Leadership with David Rubenstein
December 24, 2020 11:00 - 18 minutes - 12.8 MBWhat makes a great leader -- and how much of it can they control? Jean and Robert explore the topic with David Rubenstein, who has a new book out on the topic, "How to Lead: Wisdom From the World's Greatest CEOs, Founders, and Game-Changers."
Biden, Barr & McConnell
December 18, 2020 00:00 - 29 minutes - 20.5 MBJean and Robert discuss the political prospects for 2021 and whether Biden will be able to break the Republicans' fever next year.
It's Always Darkest...
December 11, 2020 04:00 - 26 minutes - 18.2 MBJean and Robert discuss the never-ending election dispute. Angry, Robert calls it an attempted coup while Jean does her best to explain what's going on in the GOP. But they still find reasons for hope.
Transitioning Between Reality and Unreality
December 03, 2020 22:00 - 21 minutes - 14.7 MBBack from a week away, Jean and Robert survey the state of the presidential transition process and discuss how much Trump is a sideshow or an ongoing danger to the country and how much Biden's cabinet picks matter. Then Robert takes a provocative stand on a polarizing issue: The extent to which "Die Hard" is a Christmas movie.
In Search of a Shared Truth
November 20, 2020 22:00 - 27 minutes - 12.7 MBRobert and Jean examine the difference in points-of-view between Donald Trump’s most ardent supporters — who see a stolen election — and those who see an election result that is fair and square. Jean worries about extreme information diets on both sides of the political spectrum while Robert remains frustrated about Trump’s degradation of democracy and creeping both-sides-ism. The co-hosts find bipartisan hope in the upcoming, all-American holiday of Thanksgiving.
A Tale of Two Transitions
November 12, 2020 23:00 - 31 minutes - 14.5 MBCo-hosts Robert and Jean discuss the two sides of the presidential transition: one traditional, one rebellious (to say the least!). Agreement is found one the importance of inclusive messaging (i.e. Biden’s speech on 11/7) and the reality of factions within each party going forward.
Aftermath
November 06, 2020 20:00 - 40 minutes - 18.7 MBJean and Robert are joined by U.S. News & World Report's Susan Milligan to unpack what the election means for the country and where we go from here. Come for the insightful, constructive discourse, stay for Robert getting choked up at the end.
Election: Endgame
October 30, 2020 12:00 - 41 minutes - 19.1 MBJean and Robert look hopefully toward the end of campaign season. They discuss the state of play in characteristic fashion: Robert floods the zone with stats while Jean speaks from the gut. Like the election, the discussion focuses much more on Trump than Biden. Come for the politics, stay for the comity.
Polite Disagreement Over a Civil Debate
October 23, 2020 20:00 - 36 minutes - 16.6 MBJean and Robert are joined by Susan Milligan, senior political correspondent at U.S. News & World Report, to break down the theatrics and the substance of the final presidential debate. They find some areas of common ground and a lot on which to (respectfully) disagree. Also Robert is shocked that Jean doesn't know what a horcrux is while neither she nor Susan is surprised that Robert does.
Supremely Annoying; Social Screwup
October 15, 2020 21:00 - 34 minutes - 15.8 MBRobert and Jean agree that political theatre in the U.S. Senate was downright un-watchable this week as Judge Amy Coney Barrett reminded the world of an unflinching Buckingham Palace guard while Senators from both sides put on annoying, over-the-top shows of partisanship. More agreement is found on the bungled attempt of Twitter and Facebook to correct their past wrongs by blocking posts of a controversial New York Post story about Hunter Biden’s laptop.
Un-Debatable
October 09, 2020 21:00 - 30 minutes - 13.8 MBWhile Jean and Robert find little to agree on this week (other than the need for the Biden campaign to confirm or deny an intent to pack the Supreme Court), the two hosts share a sense that presidential and Vice Presidential debates don’t really matter — especially this year. Robert finds hope in voting and Jean scrapes the bottom of the barrel of hope by looking forward to the return of trashy reality television.
An Antidote to the [Debate] Show
October 01, 2020 22:00 - 25 minutes - 11.8 MBCo-hosts Robert and Jean reflect widespread agreement that the first Trump-Biden debate was excruciating to watch. Jean revisits her theory that President Trump is a message-tester who functions like a social media or search engine algorithm; Robert is relieved his children weren’t watching and looks forward to the next moderator muting the mic. In spite of their shared blues about the debate, the co-hosts manage to find hope in entrepreneurship and baseball.
Supremely Dysfunctional
September 24, 2020 20:00 - 34 minutes - 15.9 MBCo-hosts Robert and Jean find agreement on the importance of voting and the danger of court-packing while sharing different viewpoints on Republicans’ decision to quickly nominate and vote on a nominee to the Supreme Court. Along the way, their conversation touches on civic understanding, gerrymandering and power addiction before finishing with a shared concern about volatility surrounding the upcoming election.
The Political Layers of COVID Economic Relief
September 17, 2020 22:00 - 27 minutes - 12.7 MBCo-hosts Robert and Jean dive into the many considerations of a COVID economic relief package — from deficits and unemployment to vaccine hopes and masked (or umasked) economic re-openings. They also illuminate how the politics around the policy debate are both partisan and bipartisan this week.
Do Revelations Matter?
September 10, 2020 20:00 - 31 minutes - 14.3 MBCo-hosts Robert and Jean discuss a range of revelations from the news of the week. Robert calls revelations about Trump “not surprising but shocking” and Jean highlights the revelation that Disney worked with Chinese Communist Party propaganda departments to produce their new film, “Mulan.” Will revelations in either category — Trump behavior or corporate behavior — change votes or consumer behavior? We’ll find out in a thousand yestermorrows.
Social Unrest + Pandemic Election = ?
September 03, 2020 22:00 - 39 minutes - 18.3 MBJean, Robert and Claude discuss ongoing social unrest and the presidential candidates’ response. The co-hosts find agreement on their desire for more media attention around truly peaceful protests, and on the need for national leaders to be reassuring as the election — and its anticipated lagging results — approaches.
Trump’s Convention?
August 28, 2020 22:00 - 40 minutes - 18.7 MBRobert and Jean respectfully share their perspectives on four days of inspiring American stories (Jean’s view) and irrational Trump adulation (Robert’s view).
Miles Taylor: Mr. Bright Side
August 27, 2020 20:00 - 30 minutes - 13.9 MBThis special episode of Bipodisan features President Trump’s former Chief of Staff for the Department of Homeland Security Miles Taylor. Taylor discusses why he is a conservative (and why Trump is not) as well as why he is supporting Joe Biden and organizing a group of Republicans to rebuild the party after the era of Donald Trump is over.
When History and Hope Rhyme
August 21, 2020 19:00 - 37 minutes - 17.2 MBRobert and Jean examine the Democrats’ convention week through their unique lens as speaking and speechwriting experts — from overall messaging to favorite lines and whether the lack of a live audience mattered. Political commentary runs throughout the episode as well, with moments of agreement and respectful disagreement.
Kama-lot
August 13, 2020 19:00 - 31 minutes - 14.3 MBJean and Robert welcome U.S. News & World Report's Susan Milligan to discuss Joe Biden's selection of Kamala Harris as his running mate. They discuss the politics, the optics, the GOP reaction and how to pronounce her name.
Small Business, Big Optimism; Conventional Wisdom
August 06, 2020 18:00 - 29 minutes - 13.4 MBEconomist William Dunkelberg joins Robert and Jean to talk about the impact of COVID-19 on the small-business sector and the unique ability of America’s entrepreneurs to ultimately rise from the ashes of any situation, including this one. The co-hosts go on to discuss the importance (or lack thereof) of political conventions and nomination acceptance speech venues.
Woven Together, Torn Apart: The Economics and Politics of COVID
July 30, 2020 21:00 - 29 minutes - 13.6 MBAs the virus spreads and the economy continues to decline, Robert and Jean explore that which is inextricably bound together (COVID and the economy) a well as that which seems irreparably torn apart (left and right, the masked and the unmasked). This thoughtful episode concludes with notes of hope, including the legacy of The Honorable John Lewis and the persistence of science.
How to Listen; How [not] to Police
July 24, 2020 12:00 - 34 minutes - 15.9 MBThis week’s show features Kevin Wilhelm, author of “How to Talk to the ‘Other Side.’” Kevin, Jean and Robert discuss tactics for productive conversations about the most difficult political issues. Robert and Jean subsequently have no trouble finding agreement on President Trump’s politically motivated insertion of federal law enforcement into local jurisdictions.
Reed and Gottheimer Talk, Listen and Solve Problems
July 13, 2020 18:00 - 38 minutes - 17.7 MBThis episode features the co-chairs of the congressional Problem Solvers Caucus: Democrat Josh Gottheimer (NJ-5) and Republican Tom Reed (NY-23). Their conversation covers how the bipartisan Problem Solvers Caucus works, what the political ramifications can be for joining this collaborative group, and what hope lies ahead for issues from police reform to COVID recovery.
The Chinese Government vs. Human Liberty
July 03, 2020 18:00 - 37 minutes - 17.1 MBHuman rights advocate Jewher Ilham, daughter of imprisoned Uyghur economist Ilham Tohti, joins Jean and Robert for a discussion about the threat the communist government of China poses to human liberty, globally. Recording on the eve of July 4th, the group agrees the United States of America is, and must remain, the beacon of liberty for the world. Jean and Robert also discuss the latest in the COVID-crisis.
American Holding Pattern
June 26, 2020 11:00 - 23 minutes - 11 MBThis week, Robert and Jean discuss the uncomfortable facts around the ongoing pandemic and political and societal gridlock. COVID still holds us, and our economy, hostage; social unrest continues, and Americans and our representatives continue to disagree on what to do about any of it. And yet, hope shines like a diamond (a baseball diamond, that is) by the end of this episode.
DACA and SCOTUS Power; Biden’s VP Choices
June 18, 2020 23:00 - 38 minutes - 17.7 MBU.S News & World Report Senior Political Writer Susan Milligan offers her knowledge and perspective on recent Supreme Court decisions as well as on Joe Biden’s possible vice presidential pick, inspiring a lively discussion about the changing role of the Court and the importance (or lack thereof) of running mates in presidential elections.
A Conversation About Conversations
June 11, 2020 19:00 - 35 minutes - 16.3 MBTeam Bipodisan is joined this week by speaker, author and diversity engagement specialist Karith Foster, who sets the stage for a conversation about conversations. The group discusses the benefits of employing humor, courage, empathy and curiosity in difficult discourse.
Anger. Frustration. Helplessness. Love.
June 05, 2020 12:00 - 34 minutes - 15.7 MBRobert, Jean and Claude engage in an open, respectful and emotional discussion about injustice, reactions and human connections. Hope is woven throughout this week’s show.
Trump’s Twitter Tantrum; Hong Kong Crackdown
May 29, 2020 03:00 - 27 minutes - 12.9 MBTechnology journalist Rob Pegoraro joins Jean and Robert this week for a tutorial on the communications statute Trump seeks to tweak. The co-hosts find bipartisan agreement on: the long-overdue need for new federal legislation to regulate social media monoliths; their longing for a moment of national pandemic mourning; and the crisis-level need for a global coalition to stand up against the communist government of China.