After a coffee with one of the founders of Tiny Capital, Daniel was invited to join the project management software company Flow, as their CEO. He combined his design and product experience with a desire to help lead teams.

Daniel turned a business that was contracting into a growing one, overseeing a new iteration of the product that has gained mass adoption, and focusing the offering around team-based productivity.

> Repeatably excellent design

Daniel talks about being a “designer CEO”, his former job at Apple, joining Square and forming the investment company Blackletter Ventures.

> If you want a team with world-class performers…you need to have a high bar.

Drawing on inspiration from the founder of Visa, Daniel shares his approach to leadership, setting high standards and managing laterally, rather than always from the top down.

> Give yourself the chance to compound.

Both Graham and Daniel open up about suffering from work-related depression, and Daniel shares how he came to realise he was depressed and so could work to reduce overwhelm and take time to reflect.

[Graham Allcott](http://www.grahamallcott.com/) is the founder of [time management training](http://thinkproductive.co.uk/ "Link: http://thinkproductive.co.uk/") company [Think Productive](http://thinkproductive.co.uk/).

This podcast is produced by [Origin](https://origin.fm/).

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