Chamberlain Saenz is my dude. I've gotten to know him over the past few years and he has been instrumental in helping me through some difficult times. His life story is an amazing one and can testify to the transformative power of Jesus. We've worked together on staff at CityChurch San Antonio and been through some turmoil... but the biggest thing we talk about on this episode is church hurt and his story.


What do you do when you feel like God called you somewhere but you're meeting a lot of resistance? How do you respond when it feels like the church is holding you back from your calling? What does it take to make peace with a church that's hurt you?


Our conversation unpacks these and helps anyone who may be walking around with wounds from a church.

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