Bec Bowman is back in your ears for this week's instalment of Artbeat!

We hear from actress[Violette Ayad](https://www.nida.edu.au/alumni-and-industry/2017-alumni/acting/2017-acting-alumni-profiles/violette-ayad) about the [Black Swan Theatre Company](https://blackswantheatre.com.au/)production [Oil](https://blackswantheatre.com.au/whats-on/oil) by Ella Hickson.

Theatre artists, Jack Martin and Jeremy James return to talk with Bec about their latest training initiative and the plans that lie ahead for [RARE BIRD ensemble](https://www.facebook.com/rarebirdensemble/), a collective investigating interdisciplinary training, performance practices and theatrical forms.

And Sally Quin, curator of the UWA Art Collection chats about the [Curator and Artist in Conversation](https://www.uwa.edu.au/lwag/Events/Curator-and-Artist-in-Conversation-Kevin-Robertson) event with Dr Kevin Robinson, where they unpack his retrospective exhibition Kevin Robinson: Paintings 1984-2022; revealing his thematic interests and development over nearly 40 years of painting.

You can catch up on past episodes of Artbeat [here](https://rtrfm.com.au/podcasts/best-of-artbeat-on-rtrfm/).