I speak with Joe Ince and 3 of his colleagues at Manchester based brewery, Marble.  Joe sent a lot of great beer in advance and we went through 5 of these beers during the podcast - some of them VERY strong!  This led to a LOOOOONG conversation.  Of course, I've edited it down to standard length, but have received a few messages asking me to post the whole thing.  So in a couple of days time, I'll release a (virtually) unedited cut!  Its great fun, lots of topics are covered and the beers were great!!