This week Ben is still at Northumbria University but he's out of the locker room and backstage with Nattie and Sam of Fickle Friends.

Ben, Nattie, and Sam talk about being part of a music community in both Brighton and Liverpool, cancelling gigs, looking after yourself, and a lot more.

Nattie and Sam's good cause of the week is Mind, find out more at https://www.mind.org.uk/