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60: Elizabeth Howard Phillips & Kenneth Phillips on their bright light
And Then Suddenly
English - April 22, 2020 15:46 - 44 minutes - 36 MB - ★★★★★ - 22 ratingsPersonal Journals Society & Culture interview conversation diversity flashpoint lifeevents shocking sudden unexpected Homepage Download Apple Podcasts Google Podcasts Overcast Castro Pocket Casts RSS feed
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After learning the fifth round of IVF didn't work out, Elizabeth Howard Phillips realized she couldn't keep putting her body through treatments. Less than two years later, Kenneth Phillips found himself nervously driving Elizabeth and their adopted baby away from the hospital. From their hotel room in Florida, we talk about their journey through infertility, the craziness that comes with adopting a baby during a pandemic, and their new bright light Eleanor.
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