On this episode of Shorewords!, join host Lesley Ewing in conversation with Kiki Patsch and Ryan Anderson about their paper, Adapting to Shoreline Retreat: Finding a Path Forward. We spoke about this paper in September 2021, but in light of the recent series of devastating storms that have attacked the California coast in late 2022 and early 2023, it was time for another conversation. Certain events can become reference points for future decisions and these storms may be such a reference. As Kiki said, people need to hear new messages 57 times before the information sinks in.   Perhaps the hundreds of news stories can accelerate that process. Both Kiki and Ryan have been checking out the coast; listen to this podcast to hear their observations from their local beaches and how these storms may change perceptions about coastal dynamics.