Drennen and Seb talk to Billboard editor Jason Lipshutz about the creative process in a commercial landscape, gender dynamics in post-modern art and Paramore. Thanks to Steph Cook and Paul Maksymowicz for the studio and engineering duties. Thanks to Sean Caffrey for the artwork. 

You can find Jason here: https://twitter.com/jasonlipshutz

You can listen to Paramore here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzjJMP4Psbk

You can check out Calvero (my friend Gabe) here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5tDwHL65uc

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