Sebastian and Drennen return from hiatus to chat with Shalewa Sharpe about modern identity in pop experimentalism, artistic expression in outrage culture and The Breeders. See Ma in theaters now!

Check out Shalewa here: https://twitter.com/silkyjumbo?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

Check out The Breeders here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8eTlm33aNI

Thanks to Steph Cook and Paul Maksymowicz for production and sound engineering. Thanks to Sean Caffrey for the artwork. 

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