In this episode, Sebastian and Drennen sit down with television producer Justin Melkmann to discuss the art of imperfection, the struggle of balancing abject and hyper realism and Gwar. 

Find Justin's band, World War IX, here: https://twitter.com/WorldWarIX

Check out Gwar here: https://youtu.be/-mvaEkVF-eg?t=43

Thanks to Steph Cook and Paul Maksymowicz for audio engineering and production and thanks to Sean Caffrey for our original artwork 

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