Former special agent Ali Soufan joins Christiane Amanpour to talk about his now declassified book, "The Black Banners," and how the CIA redacted evidence that torture didn't work. Then renowned philosopher Michael Sandel makes the case against meritocracy, the topic of his new book, “The Tyranny of Merit." He also reflects on the roots of our populist moment. Our Walter Isaacson speaks to Netflix CEO Reed Hastings about the secret to his company’s success, which he says lies in their smash-the-conventions culture.

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Former special agent Ali Soufan joins Christiane Amanpour to talk about his now declassified book, "The Black Banners," and how the CIA redacted evidence that torture didn't work. Then renowned philosopher Michael Sandel makes the case against meritocracy, the topic of his new book, “The Tyranny of Merit." He also reflects on the roots of our populist moment. Our Walter Isaacson speaks to Netflix CEO Reed Hastings about the secret to his company’s success, which he says lies in their smash-the-conventions culture.

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