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We Considered Comics

316 episodes - English - Latest episode: about 2 years ago - ★★★★★ - 19 ratings

We Considered Comics was a comics podcast dedicated to bringing a positive and welcoming attitude to all things related to comic books. From the Big Two and Boom! to the MCU and Image, if it has to do with a comic, we wanted to talk about it!

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The Last Episode of ACC

April 10, 2022 19:55 - 55 minutes - 51 MB

This episode has taken longer to publish because once we do, All Comics Considered won’t be recording anymore. And I am not ready for the show to end. A few months back, we received a cease and desist order from NPR, stating that they have a trademark on the All __ Considered brand. We were given six months to change our name, and we were not required to destroy our archive. When we started this show, we knew this was a possibility. We never aspired to be like All Things Considered - the ...

Episode 57: Quick Fire Pullbox

March 01, 2022 18:25 - 41 minutes - 37.7 MB

This week, Marty and Tim do a quick round of what we're reading and think you would get a kick out of! Join us as we talk about current reads and deep dives into the past! Prophet: W: Graham, A: Milonogiannis, Dalrymple, Roy The AllNighter: W: Zdarsky, A: Loo Hellions: W: Wells, A: Carlos, Segovia Spider-Man: Beyond: W: Ahmed, A: Fornes Daredevil: Devil's Reign #3 W: Zdarsky, A: Checchetto

Episode 57: Spider-Moon

February 07, 2022 17:30 - 43 minutes - 40.1 MB

Hey there ACCtion heroes! This week, we delve into the Spider-man: No Way Home and the Disney+ show Moon knight. If, like Marty, you haven't been able to hit the theater due to covid, fear not! this is mostly spoiler free! When it comes to Moon Knight, we dig a bit deeper into Marc Spector, and discuss what we think we're going to see in this upcoming show

Episode 55: 2021 Year in Review

January 31, 2022 13:10 - 44 minutes - 40.5 MB

In this week's episode, Marty and Tim go back in time and look through some of our favorite comics and comic-book based moments in 2021. We talk about: Best of 2021: Reign of X Daredevil Spider-Woman New Mutants Immortal Hulk Valkyries Amazing Fantasy For our pullbox: Star Trek: New Prelude King Conan

Episode 54: George Pérez

December 30, 2021 14:00 - 53 minutes - 48.5 MB

This week, Marty and Tim dig deep into the career or artist, writer, and extraordinary human George Pérez. George retired from comics a few years ago, and three weeks ago, he announced that he has terminal cancer. George's art defined the 80s. He worked mostly for the Big Two, with ground breaking runs on Wonder Woman, Teen Titans, and Avengers. Some of his work is out of print -- seriously WB and Disney, we want our JLA vs Avengers! -- but his influence can be felt far and wide. It's hard...

Episode 53: Hawkeye and Hot Guy!

December 25, 2021 13:55 - 57 minutes - 52.2 MB

Hey there ACC-tion heroes and happy holidays! We're starting our deep dive into Hawkeye -- relatively spoiler free! -- just as the show ends on Disney+. We'll go over the connections to the amazing Aja and Fraction run and what this means for the MCU as a whole! We also dig a little bit into the new Spider-man arc: Beyond!

Episode 52: Spiders!

December 18, 2021 13:10 - 59 minutes - 54.3 MB

This week -- which is a few weeks behind -- we delve into what we expect from Spider-man: No Way Home! And we have special guest Nick Fury, who is taking a break from his course work! We also talk about: Spider-Man: Beyond Fantastic Four: Life Story X-men: Morrison/Quietly Run Sisters of Battle

Episode 51: The Thing and the Hulk

December 13, 2021 13:00 - 46 minutes - 42.4 MB

Hey there Acc-tion Heroes! While Nick is still away working on his masters, Marty and Tim hang out and talk about the comics they're digging. First up, The Thing #1 by acclaimed writer Walter Mosley, artist Tom Reilly, and super star colorist Jordie Bellaire!! Spoiler alert, it's real good. We also talk about: Immortal Hulk #50 by Al Ewing and Joe Bennet Spoiler: this is also good and Joe Bennet is a fascist.

Episode 50: Too Late to be Spooky

November 20, 2021 13:15 - 39 minutes - 36.5 MB

In this episode, Marty and Tim sit down and reflect that time and dates may not be their strong suit -- but reading comics and appreciating the art form totally is. They'll discuss a handful of writers that you should check out too! Now, let us be clear: Artists make the words real, and they all deserve top billing. But an audio medium ain't great for a visual art. So we are working on a Twitch Stream that focuses all on the artists. Today's episode maybe about the writers, but we are not ...

Episode 49: What IF...in review

November 06, 2021 12:20 - 45 minutes - 41.5 MB

Hey there ACC-tion heroes! This week your favorite hosts Marty, Tim, and Nick return to the multiverse and talk about the ending of Season 1 of What If! We go over the Watcher, delve into the build up of the finale, and speculate of what comes next! Join us as we talk about this beautifully animated show!

Episode 48: Shang-Chi with Manuclear Bomb!

October 29, 2021 12:25 - 1 hour - 75.8 MB

Hey there ACCtion heroes! Sorry we've been quiet. We've had some more illness, more real life work, and some technical difficulties. We hope that's behind us now -- and that we can get some more episodes in the tank in case we need to coast again. But we aren't here to talk about that. oh no. We saw Shang -Chi and we invited Manuclear Bomb aka Manu to talk about it! You can find more of Manu's work here: Twitter Patreon Marty /adores/ the Metal Gear Solid -- Podcast Sans Frontieres -- ...

Episode 47: What If and This Generation of Marvel Video Games

September 27, 2021 12:20 - 50 minutes - 46.4 MB

Hey there ACCtion heroes! This week, your hosts Marty, Tim, and Nick do a deeper dive into Marvel's What If (episode 3 and 4) and a discussion into the future of marvel video games, including the PS Exclusive titles of Spider-man and Wolverine! Come for the discussion on how What If carries on the legacy of the What if Brand. Stick around for Marty griping about console exclusive titles!

Episode 46: Shang-Chi

September 11, 2021 12:35 - 48 minutes - 44.8 MB

Hey there ACC-tion heroes! This week, our main story is on Shang-Chi! Tim will walk us through the creation of Marvel's magnificent martial-artist, the martial art lessons included in the black and white publication, and what modern stories do with our hero!

Episode 44: What If....

September 03, 2021 12:10 - 45 minutes - 41.9 MB

We're talking first episode of Disney+'s 'What if Series and a breakdown of what we know, so far, of 3 World 3 Moons -- a sub stack project helmed by one of our favorites, Jonathon Hickman. Also, if you don't dig some of substack's writers, may I suggest donating to Brave Space Alliance! Here's our link to Warriors and Dog Fighters by Del Mundo

Episode 44 : A Pullbox with Marty, Tim, and Nick

August 27, 2021 13:50 - 42 minutes - 38.6 MB

Marty The Problem of Susan and Other Stories The Hellfire Gala The Trial of Magneto Hype Train New Mutants by Ayala and Reis Tim's: Beta Ray Bill Giant Skeletor (see Below) Kevin Smith's He Man Snyder Cut of Justice League

Episode 43: Bad Comics

August 17, 2021 12:30 - 39 minutes - 36.3 MB

We founded All Comics Considered to talk about comics that we love. Our Kirby scale is a tongue-in-cheek response to ratings -- we rate how much we like the book. And over the past six years, when we rated books we didn't like, we talked about why we did not like the book. More often than not, the response was 'this is not for me.' Until today. Adam and Zach from Battle of the Atom rate the Draco as the worst X-men story, and I ignored Adam's warning. I read it. Today, we talk about this co...

Episode 42: Loki Season 1 Wrap up!

August 06, 2021 07:50 - 57 minutes - 52.7 MB

Summer speeds by -- and if we learned anything about Loki is that we wish we could work with the Time Variance Authority to extend it just a little bit. Or maybe head to a timeline where folks wore masks and got vaccinated... But since Kang doesn't exist in the 404, we can't do either of those things. We might as well just recap Loki! This is a full season recap, so spoilers if you haven't seen it all!

Episode 41: Sean and Caitlin talk Bliss!

July 14, 2021 12:35 - 54 minutes - 49.5 MB

ACC-tion heroes, we shouldn't play favorites...but we will. Sean and Caitlin are some of our super star creators who have been wonderful interviewees. Today, we bring them both back to talk about Bliss' Trade, their new projects: Black Hammer for Caitlin, King Spawn for Sean, and what the future holds.

Episode 40: Loki -- Season 1, Episode 1

June 26, 2021 12:35 - 29 minutes - 27.4 MB

This week, Marty, Tim, and Nick jump into the new Disney+, Loki. Yes, it's 2 weeks behind -- but this is to give folks time to catch up with the show and see if our predictions are true. For instance: Who are the Time Lords? (Marty says it's Kangs.) What's going on with the OTHER Loki? Is Owen Wilson's Moebius connected to another Marvel Character? Join us for discussing a show that we're all pretty excited for!

Episode 39: No Nick? Time for a Pullbox!

June 21, 2021 13:25 - 56 minutes - 51.3 MB

The best laid plans and scripts of podcasters are often laid waste by real life. So when Nick takes a knee, what do Tim and Marty do? Why, we do another pullbox! This time, also featuring the graphic novel Tim gifted Marty: The Sword of Glass! First, here's the article from Comics XF that Marty mentioned, written by Ritesh Babu. Read it! https://www.comicsxf.com/2021/05/17/trinary-the-aesthetics-of-representation/ Secondly, a lockjaw note: Marty kept calling Trinary, "trinity." We apolog...

Episode 38: Pullbox with Tim and Marty

June 11, 2021 12:05 - 45 minutes - 41.8 MB

This week, Marty and Tim talk about the books they are reading. And a quick note about our sound: Zencastr seems to have changed the inputs on Marty's mic between sound checks, so we apologize for the sound. Here are the books we are recommending this week! Eternals:Kieron Gillian, Esad Ribic, Matthew Wilson Nocterra -- Scott Snyder, Tomeu Morey, Tony S Daniel Wolverine: Red, White, and Blood -- Various Creative Teams Excalibur -- Howard, To Taskmaster -- Mackay, Vitti S.W.O.R....

Episode 37: GoodAsian

May 29, 2021 14:40 - 34 minutes - 31.6 MB

Hey there ACC-tion heroes! Today we give a SPOILERY review of Pornsak Picketshote's and Alexandre Tefenkgi's The Good Asian, from Image. It is absolutely no secret that we're fans of Pornsak's work as a writer and editor, and we had an absolute blast with him in our interview with him (Volume 2, Episode 35, btw.) And here we get to go into great detail about WHY. In a line, if you like noir thrillers and social justice, this is the book for you.

Episode 36: Falcon and The Winter Soldier Recap with Director Warren Williams

May 15, 2021 11:50 - 1 hour - 62.4 MB

Hey There Acction heroes! To wrap up our coverage of Falcon and The Winter Solider (note, there will be spoilers!) we invited community organizer, director, and editor extraordinaire, Warren Williams to help us recap the entire show. We revisit our discussion of Sam and Misogyny, talk about how weirdly chaste the MCU is, and we even briefly discuss Daredevil. Spoiler on DD: Marty's solo on this one! We had a blast connecting with Warren, and we are so looking forward to letting you in on t...

All Comics Considered Episode 35: An Interview with Pornsak Picketshote

May 03, 2021 13:15 - 1 hour - 59.2 MB

Hey there Acc-Tions heroes! We're back with a fantastic interview with Pornsak Picketshote, writer of Infidel and the up coming The Good Asian. Pornsak got his start at the late great Vertigo imprint, where he edited some titles you may have heard of, including: We3 Hellblazer The Losers Swamp Thing Sweet Tooth The list goes on. Seriously. IN ADDITION to this, Pornsak also helped create The Arrowverse, wrote on Cloak and Dagger, 2 Sentence Horror Stories and Light as a Feather. And that...

quick_apology

May 02, 2021 12:51 - 2 minutes - 1.96 MB

A quick apology and a clarification of our Twitch stream times!

Episode 35: WandaVision

April 02, 2021 17:00 - 1 hour - 72.9 MB

Hey there ACC-tion heroes! This week, we're assembling to discus the end of the first Disney+ MCU Show, WandaVision! We talk about the Ship of Theseus, the future of Vision, the need for a Darcy/Jimmy Woo X-files style show, and how WandaVison sets the floor for the next show, Falcon and Winter Soldier!

Episode 33: The Tarnished Angel

March 14, 2021 16:15 - 1 hour - 65.7 MB

Hey There ACC-Tion Heroes! This week we continue our deep dive into Kurt Busiek's Astro City with The Tarnished Angel. This is, so far, the most Noir of the Astro City stories. It is a look into the lives of the villains Astro City, and the never ending cycle of "one last score." Our protagonist is SteelJack, a man with a steel body who has just been release from prison and his return to his neighborhood to go straight... This one spoke volumes to Marty. Some come find out why this is the ...

Episode 32: The Black Panther Party

March 08, 2021 15:45 - 52 minutes - 48.3 MB

Sorry for the delay in this week's episode, ACC-tion Heroes! This week, we take a break from WandaVision and AstroCity to talk about an amazing graphic novel: The Black Pantry Party by David F. Walker and Marcus Kwame Anderson. We recognize that we may not be the best people to talk about this work and this history of the Black Panthers. To that end, we are looking to bring in more Black and activist folks to talk about this particular work and the legacy of the Panthers. But for now, we d...

Episode 31: Family Album

February 21, 2021 14:05 - 1 hour - 56.9 MB

This week, Tim, Nick and Marty continue their deep dive into the world of Astro City with Family Album! We explore the themes and stories behind these collected issues, which focus on the idea of super-hero family. Now, the only drawback in spending so much time digging into Astro City is we don't have a lot of time left to talk about what we're reading IN ADDITION to Busik's wonderful world. We plan on returning to our Pullbox soon

Episode 31: Better Man

February 14, 2021 14:00 - 52 minutes - 48 MB

In this episode, Marty and Nick deconstruction how the patriarchy impacts folks who identify as men. We also then look to our primary touchstone -- Comics -- to see how what we can glean on what it means to be "a better man." We're delving into this topic because we have spent a lot of time deconstructing toxic masculinity without building up a better replacement. Tearing down terrible constructs and institutions is good. Given folks examples of what it will take to be 'good' is better. Pl...

Episode 29: WandaVision

February 06, 2021 19:00 - 49 minutes - 45.3 MB

This week, we take a break from our deep dive into Astro City and focus instead on the MCU's newest show, WandaVision! Marty, Tim, and Nick do a quick recap of the entire series and share some of the connective tissue from the comics. We also delve into our speculation about the Big Bad behind everything and some of our more wild wants and theories. Join us in Westview, y'all! And beware, Spoilers Abound!

Episode 28: Superman of Metropolis with Sean Lewis

January 31, 2021 14:10 - 1 hour - 67.6 MB

Listeners, one of the first folks to reach out to us was an up and coming comics writer named Sean. He found the show, reached out to us, based on the fact that the book he was working on jived with Marty's job. So we interviewed him and talked Coyotes, Saints, and a mutual love of comics. Not too long after, he came back to talk about The Few, the end of Coyotes, and hinted at a BIGGER DEAL. That bigger deal? Superman. Sean's one of the writer attached to the Future State event, and he h...

Episode 27: WW84 with Megan from Dorkadia

January 21, 2021 16:28 - 1 hour - 71.4 MB

Happy New Year ACC-tion heroes! Today we bring back one of our favorite guest hosts, Megan from Dorkadia, to discuss Wonder Woman 1984. We talk about what we like -- but could be better -- and what we want to see next in the DCEU. So join us as we jump back into a discussion about the comics we love! We even get a chance to talk about what's in our pullbox! Pullbox: Megan: High Republic and Project Luminious Nick: The Rise and Fall of Western Civilization Tim: Emypre (Not recommend...

Episode 26: The Next Phase of the MCU

December 27, 2020 17:56 - 54 minutes - 49.7 MB

Happy Holidays Acc-tion heroes! This week, Tim and Nick watch and react to a number of trailers, scenes, and glimpses of the MCU's Phase Four. WandaVision - Jan 15th - We’ll be seeing Dr. Strange and Agatha Harkness. Black Widow - ?? Eternals - Summer 2021 The Falcon and the Winter Soldier - March 19th Loki What If…? Shang-Chi and The Legend of The Ten Rings - July 9th 2021 Kamala Khan - actress Iman Vellani - late 2021 Captain Marvel 2 Director Nia DaCosta. We’ll be seeing Ms. ...

Episode 25: Astro City Fan Cast

December 18, 2020 13:05 - 36 minutes - 33.2 MB

Hey there ACC-tion heroes! As we come to the end of the longest decade on record, Tim and Nick take a new view of Astro City: Who should bring this amazing series to life! So join Tim and Nick as they determine who should play Winged Victory, Samaritan, Cracker Jack and all the rest of Busiek's heroes! And let us know who you want to play your favorites from Astro City!

Episode 24: Astro City Part 2

December 11, 2020 13:25 - 50 minutes - 46.5 MB

In this episode, Marty, Tim, and Nick finish Vol 1 of Kurt Busiek's magnum opus, Astro City. This volume is exceptionally difficult to find, so you may have to do some digging on Ebay -- but it is well worth adding to your collection. Last week we did issues 0-2, today we touch on issues 2-6. We discuss the characters, themes, and art work that make Astro City a beautiful nod to the capes and cowls we love, all while pushing the limits of what we can do with a good superhero story. We hav...

Episode 23: Astro City

December 04, 2020 14:30 - 50 minutes - 46.2 MB

This week, Marty, Tim, and Nick delve into Kurt Busiek's Astro City. This on-going series is not just a love letter to the super-heroes we know and love, it is a reconstruction of the capes and cowls. Nick walks us through issues 0, 1, and 2 and sets the ground work for our on going series as we delve into what makes Astro City such a great series.

Episode 22: Red Sonja

November 21, 2020 22:45 - 51 minutes - 47.4 MB

This week ACC-tion heroes, Marty, Tim, and Nick return to Gail Simone's Hyrkania for Red Sonja: Vol 2. We discuss Sonja's DnD Adventure, our favorites from her party, and what we want to see next! This week, we even got a chance to do pullbox, and some Bonus Socialism™! Pullbox: Tim: Animal man: W: Lemire, A: Forman Marty Daredevil/Black Widow: Abbatoir W: Starlin, A: Chiodo Patrick Nagel Art Cry for Dawn

Episode 21: Umbrella Academy with Caitlin Yarsky!

November 14, 2020 13:30 - 1 hour - 60.9 MB

Hey there ACC-tion heroes! You may remember when we interviewed Caitlin Yarsky a few months ago, she discussed her love of Umbrella Academy! So naturally, we invited her to come back on the show to talk about the art, framing, and story of this Netflix Original Series. Caitlin also hints at a new project that she's working on (And if you were on the stream, you got to see the oil painting of the cover to Bliss #4) So join us as we expand the crew with one of the great artists of our time a...

Episode 20: Red Sonja

October 30, 2020 12:10 - 54 minutes - 49.6 MB

This week, we leave 616 and Earth-1 to venture to Hyrkania, to run with the She-devil with Sword, Red Sonja. Marty, Tim, and Nick delve into the 2014 Reboot by Simone, Geovani, and Jadson with covers by the incredible Jenny Frison. We also have a very deep conversation about the warriors, princes, and who we identify with when it comes to figures of authority and power. Join us for one hell of a show! W: Gail Simone, A: Walter Geovani, Jack Jadson, C: Jenny Frison

Episode 19: Miles Morales

October 23, 2020 13:20 - 57 minutes - 52.5 MB

Acc-tion heroes, friends, fans, and casual listeners: It is my pleasure to introduce to you this week's episode: Miles Morales. This week, Marty, Tim and Nick go back to the year 2011 to read Ultimate Comics Spider-man issues 1-5. By Bendis and Pichelli. We talk about what we love about Miles, his introduction to 1610, what was Donald Glover's role in Spider-man and, in general, how we feel about Bendis and Pichelli's work! We also do a pull box featuring Star, by Kelly Thompson! Book Review...

Episode 18: Ultimate Spider-man

October 17, 2020 22:55 - 55 minutes - 50.6 MB

This week, Marty, Tim, and Nick return 1610 to discuss Ultimate Spider-man! What makes this series so important to Marty and Nick? How did Nick react to Marty's reading of USM at GenCon? Join us to find out! Ultimate Spider Man Writer: Bendis Artist: Bagely

Episode 17: Books of Magic

October 09, 2020 13:40 - 1 hour - 63.9 MB

Hey there ACCtion heroes, want to walk the labyrinth? Careful, if you agree to walk the path, you'll end up like young Tim Hunter, the greatest magician of his age! This week, Marty, Tim, and Nick do a deep dive into the Vertigo classic, Books of Magic mini-series by Gaiman, Bolton, Vess, Hampton, and Johnson. We do talk about Vol2 a little bit, but let's be honest: we're really here for Tim Hunter and John Constantine (and maybe not even in that order) We also give a quick Pullbox -- Remem...

Episode 16: A Very, Very Chaotic Pullbox

September 25, 2020 12:30 - 58 minutes - 53.3 MB

This week, Marty, Tim and Nick do a deep dive into what we've been reading comics wise. This week, Nick goes into why he is not happy with how the Dawn of X titles have been spinning out -- even if he likes specific books. Like Marauders. You're reading Mauraders, right? Tim does a deep dive into Dark Nights Metal, following his dive into Bendis' Superman run. We try to make a little sense of The Batman who Laughs, but you're going to have to listen to find out of if this is our Jam. Marty ...

Episode 15: Days of Future Past

September 19, 2020 13:40 - 1 hour - 60.4 MB

Hey there ACCtion heroes, want to hear about one of the most influential and iconic comics? Of course you do, you're a rabid listener of ACC! Today, Tim, Nick, and Marty are going to delve into Days of Future Past, the Claremont/Byrne book that set up a thousands story lines -- lines you can draw straight to Hox Pox. In addition to Days of Future past, we have: Pullbox! Marty: X-men #11: W: Hickman, A: Yu Nick: Dark Tim: Strange Academy W: Young, A: Ramos And Nick makes a prediction abo...

Episode 14: Pullbox with Marty and Tim

September 11, 2020 15:07 - 56 minutes - 51.4 MB

Hey there folks, how are you? Are you good? Are you as good as Marty and Tim hanging out and talking about comics? If you aren't now, you will be by the end of the episode! This week, our Dynamic Duo go down a list of comics they're reading and talk about the late, great, Chadwick Boseman. The future of Black Panther Eternals: Movie Comic Tim: Shang-chi Silk Origin Story Marty What we do in the Shadows Decorum

Episode 13: Far Sector with Caitlin Rosberg

September 04, 2020 13:00 - 1 hour - 69.7 MB

Hey there ACC-tion heroes! This week, Marty, Tim, and Nick are joined by the one and only Caitlín Rosberg to talk about the amazing book Far Sector! While we've talked about N.K. Jemisin and Jamal Campbell's amazing take on Green Lantern before, in this episode we do a deep dive into the text AND mythology of Green Lantern, with Caitlin as our guide If you love world-building, you will love the City that NK Jemisin built with Jamal. If you want to read a book that addresses current social p...

Episode 12: Caitlin Yarsky

August 22, 2020 23:55 - 1 hour - 56.7 MB

Hey there ACC-tion heroes! This week, Marty, Tim, and Nick interview the artist behind Coyotes and Bliss, and the writer/artist of "The Sisters of Angelus," Caitlin Yarsky! Here's the skinny y'all: Each one of your hosts had such a good time talking to Caitlin, we didn't even get a chance to ask her questions about her process, animation, Umbrella Academy, or her dream projects. Even our audio editor Steve had a blast listening in. So we're going to have to have her back. In addition to hav...

Episode 11: Love and Rockets

August 15, 2020 13:00 - 1 hour - 57.9 MB

Intro: This week, the Dynamic Duo of Marty and Tim come together to talk about the series that Tim loves. The series that brought him back into comics. A series that is still ongoing! Today we are talking about Los Brothers Hernandez magnum opus, Love and Rockets. We also do a quick pullbox of the web comic Assassin Roommate and These Savage Shores Love And Rockets Getting into the Series The Punk aesthetic How did Tim find it Who is Maggie and why do we all have a crush on her? W...

Episode 10: The Eternals

August 11, 2020 20:00 - 1 hour - 55.4 MB

All New All Different All Comics Codnsidered Episode 9: Eternals Intro: Welcome to the All-New, All-Different All Comics Considered. The comic book podcast with a heart of gold, produced proudly by the Oracle Podcast Network. Today we’re doing a deep dive into the The Eternals, published in 2006. Written by Neil Gaiman and drawn by John Romita Jr. Summarizing the Plot Ike Harris Mike Curry Sersi Thena Pixie Pullbox Nick: The Old Guard (Netflix) Marty: Spider-man: Life Story; W: Z...

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