Mike Marchi returns to the show with Jeff Singleton.  Both are board members of the Agile Professional Learning Network - Chicago Chapter. We talk about a recent discussion at the APLN meetup, how the Agile Community sustains itself.  We also talk about how internal organizations may sabotage their own efforts to create sustainable communities. Also, the APLN is hosting their 3rd Annual Conference on May 16th, 2019.  They are still accepting speaker proposals.  Checkout their for more info.