Guest: Ioannis "Yanis" Varoufakis is a Greek economist and politician and the writer of a poignant article that argues that a fair deal to end the war would probably leave everyone feeling dissatisfied, but it would be a great improvement on every feasible alternative. Both sides must make gains that exceed losses, without losing face.

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Guest: Ioannis "Yanis" Varoufakis is a Greek economist and politician and the writer of a poignant article that argues that a fair deal to end the war would probably leave everyone feeling dissatisfied, but it would be a great improvement on every feasible alternative. Both sides must make gains that exceed losses, without losing face.

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