This Episode features Zac Gandara host of the weekly podcast Losing our Religion. Zac is an amazing host and an even better friend. Not only did he inspire me to start this podcast, he has on more than one occasion talked me down when life had gotten challenging. This is a real conversation... as all my conversations with Zac go, we laugh, encourage one another, commiserate and nearly always end up crying. If you love Zac, which I know you will, Be sure to check out what he is doing over at

counterculturesociety.com

losingourreligion.org