To what extent is “canceling” someone in 2021 just a way to take someone off the board? Does intent matter? And can people really be educated/rehabilitated? We take a look at the recent scandal around former Raiders’ head coach/GM John Gruden’s emails and his hurried resignation.

We kick it off with a discussion history of using nonsense words in music, and we’re led down the rabbit hole on a site with the Myers Briggs personality profiles of celebrities.

Listener resources:

September by Earth Wind and Fire.

Explanation of Myers Briggs types.

Take your own Myers Briggs

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Hosted by Mike Farr (@silentmikke) and Jim McDonald (@thejimmcd).

Produced by Jim McDonald

Production assistance by Sam McDonald.