Ever wonder what Kansas City Chiefs rookies Isiah Pacheco and Trent McDuffie were like before college and NFL football? "4th and 1" podcast host Tod Palmer and analyst Nick Jacobs chat with their high school head football coaches to find out.

Dan Russo, who coached Pacheco at Vineland High School in New Jersey, and Jason Negro, who coached McDuffie at St. John Bosco in California, talk about the Chiefs' running back and cornerback, respectively, ahead of Super Bowl LVII.

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